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    dormant | # 51 | 2009-08-24, 13:48 | Report

    Looks very nice, but not sure if it is differentiated enough from the rest of the market.

    Any sign of the power brick? It'd be great if Nokia managed to use the new Euro-standard power connector for phones, but I don't know if that is beefy enough.

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    johnkzin | # 52 | 2009-08-24, 13:54 | Report

    Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
    Threads merged.

    I was going to hit the "Thanks" button for this comment, but ... I don't see a thanks button.

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    Texrat | # 53 | 2009-08-24, 13:59 | Report

    Yahoo article: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nokia-...tml?x=0&.v=101

    I'm liking that 12 hour use time, but I really want to see price...

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    ColdFusion | # 54 | 2009-08-24, 14:00 | Report

    My comment went away after the merge I guess.

    Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
    Well, Diablo was still designed for 4" stylus screens, for a constrained mobile device. So that means one application on screen at the time, one view at a time. Those are pretty bad limitations for a 10" lapt... Booklet. Application UI's were designed with these constraints in mind, so blowing them to 10" would in most cases just break and not look very nice.

    Of course nothing is impossible, given enough time, motivation and resources.
    I like the Moblin2 UI actually, and it's exactly what you're describing. I'm almost certain that we'll be able to install it effortlessly on that Booklet, with it being Intel and all.

    So what I gather from your post is that the Fremantle UI woundn't be able to scale to a let's say 5" Internet Tablet... you don't have to answer that.

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    Reggie | # 55 | 2009-08-24, 14:01 | Report

    Anyone know what the price of this thing is? Will this come out as a carrier subsidized?

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    Texrat | # 56 | 2009-08-24, 14:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
    So what I gather from your post is that the Fremantle UI woundn't be able to scale to a let's say 5" Internet Tablet... you don't have to answer that.
    Last time the subject came up I recall a negative comment about Maemo UI element scalability.

    But hey, if MICROSOFT can see the vector graphics light, well...

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    EIPI | # 57 | 2009-08-24, 14:03 | Report

    I am optimistic (perhaps naively so) that Nokia will introduce a Maemo based tablet with 3G in between the size and form factors of the already known flanking devices (Booklet and RX-51). I hope so, I really do.

    I am also intrigued by ragnar's careful choice of wording indicating that Maemo is not currently suitable for a 10" screen.

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    volt | # 58 | 2009-08-24, 14:09 | Report

    I think it's naive to be disappointed about Nokia trying to reach the broadest possible user base. Linux is still catching up. Most people know Windows/Microsoft better. Hey, even Firefox is still to be considered "a less popular alternative to Internet Explorer" if judged by userbase size.

    With laptop models sporting same hardware, available with Windows AND Linux, the Linux versions have had twice as many returns from disgruntled customers, so I am not all that surprised they'd pick the platform they did. Also, the Windows percentage has increased steadily on netbooks the last year or two, I think it's inclusion here means more for Nokia than it does for Microsoft.

    I am not saying that W7 is better for people, especially not the people in this forum. I am saying that a lot of people have been using the shortkeys and buttons in Windows/MS Office longer than they have been in Ubuntu/OpenOffice, and this gives Microsoft an advantage in marketing.

    Marketing is ultra important to Nokia. This is their first lapt... booklet, and they want it to reach as many people as possible. We shouldn't be disappointed about that.

    We should be much more disappointed in what was said right here in this thread, that the next generation of Maemo, Fremantle, is made for Ten Thumbs, not Ten Inches. "Currently" doesn't help much unless when it's a OS iteration that we'll have around for years, and it's been built up around a limitation that will in no way be easy to remove. Basically, to me, that generally means "no, we don't feel a seven inch Maemo tablet is a good idea". And that's a bit depressing.

    The RX-51 wasn't 5 inches. RX-71? Not 7 inches.

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    Texrat | # 59 | 2009-08-24, 14:17 | Report

    Originally Posted by volt View Post
    The RX-51 wasn't 5 inches. RX-71? Not 7 inches.
    They always exaggerate their size.

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    nwerneck | # 60 | 2009-08-24, 14:18 | Report

    Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
    why have you chosen Windows as the operating system and not use the various linux options you have ready at your disposal?
    Because Linux is just a "niche" thing, a curiosity. Serious things needs either Windows if you are a spreadsheet/powerpoint kind of person, or Apple stuff for design/publishing, etc, because it's "much better" for that. Oh, let's not forget that Apple stuff today is built over UNIX, so it's "rock solid", while windows 7 also uses "NT technology" (do people still know what that is? ). Linux also has UNIX technology, of course, but it's not built by hired pros, you know. What are your guarantees?

    With Windows, your satisfaction is guaranteed! Plus, it costs less, there are studies that show it. And there is of course the learning curve thing...

    For big companies Linux is just a political stick to show during negotiations with Microsoft.

    And is also the system that idealistic geeks will waste their times porting themselves to each new machine so they can finally start using them for their work, X months after everybody else.

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