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2009-08-24 , 18:52
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
The same re-learning that keeps the masses from moving to Apple.

Oh... wait... they have stared moving to Apple.

What was the logic there again?
Nope, they haven't.

Maybe with Snow Leopard finally supporting Exchange 2007 there will be some more moving, but seriously, Windows is going to stay where it is for quite some time still. For bad or for good.
 
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2009-08-24 , 18:53
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
No no no, John, you're getting disingenuous.

Again: subject NOT black and white. Keep repeating that to yourself.

The masses are not moving to Apple, the self-professed elite are. If and when masses actually do so, let me know. Then Apple will be the thing you hate.
That is so true. If people think Microsoft is restrictive, then you should take a good look at Apple's practices...

But, we are disgressing. Back to the Booklet!
 
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2009-08-24 , 18:57
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
The masses are not moving to Apple, the self-professed elite are. If and when masses actually do so, let me know. Then Apple will be the thing you hate.

The self professed elite have been on Apple for a long time. They were Apple's stable core. But in the last few years, people have been moving off of Windows, and on to Apple. That's what spawned the latest round of "I'm a PC" ads.

As for me hating Apple... If I do, it wont be for the same reasons I hate Windows. Apple's OS actually has a stable and usable core, with real solid UI design work. I don't always like Apple's Agenda, but I do love the OS (and I have, since it was Nextstep). My reason for leaving Apple 2 years ago (started by my purchase of an N800) had to do with the company's agenda interfering with the features I wanted ... not with the software itself.
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2009-08-24 , 18:58
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#144
I just have no value for it. None.
Oh nononono. Excuse me, but you're a dirty liar. There are thousands of things that have no value for me. But I'm not bleeding from my eyes and scream that all these things are total ******** and so on and so on.
Seriously, you hate windows cause you love to hate it, it makes you feel such a cool "outcast" or "rebel" or something. Dude, you're absolutely wrong.
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Yes, back to Booklet. You don't need SolidWorks on a netbook, so what software is missing that's stopping the masses to move to linux?
 
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Originally Posted by mrojas View Post
That is so true. If people think Microsoft is restrictive, then you should take a good look at Apple's practices...
With Apple, it's about corporate agenda, not the software itself (the reason the iPhone doesn't give you a Maemo style Terminal app isn't because the OS can't do it, it's because Apple wont let you).

With Microsoft, it's both.

It's debatable which is more draconian about their Agendas (iPhone App Store vs Windows Genuine Advantage, for example).
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2009-08-24 , 19:01
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Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
Yes, back to Booklet. You don't need SolidWorks on a netbook, so what software is missing that's stopping the masses to move to linux?
Nokia PC Suite/ Ovi Suite maybe?
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So, you wouldn't consider buying the Booklet and then installing your preferred *nix distro on it?
I already covered this. Has to have vendor support. Otherwise, it becomes a support nightmare.

When I'm paid to do that, I don't mind. But my days of wanting to waste my leisure time fighting to get my personal computing devices to just _work_ are long since past. I prefer to spend my leisure time with my gf, my dog, a good book, or a good movie.
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Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
Yes, back to Booklet. You don't need SolidWorks on a netbook, so what software is missing that's stopping the masses to move to linux?
In a simple word?

Inertia.
 
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A Windows button on something this pretty. Nokia, you hurt me. Dell just became my new hero. Like johnzkin said, it's about support, but I've seen the innards of Nokia's kernel and GTK patching. I shouldn't be surprised. They've never really supported GNU/Linux, they've just bastardized it for their own selfish purposes and tossed it aside. For f*ck sake, isn't Android running a recent kernel on very similar hardware as the tablets? And don't get me started on that Hildon abortion branch of GTK. Nokia is on its way to becoming the worst of the worst. The only good thing about Microsoft is they've understood backwards compatability from the start. Granted, it was an evil understanding, but important none the less. Nokia couldn't even get that right. Look, this has nothing to do with the Nokians that respond to us here. I'm sure they have little control in these matters. This is a trickle down leadership problem.

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