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    Now it's official: Maemo 5 and the N900 launch!

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    zerojay | # 531 | 2009-08-31, 21:00 | Report

    Originally Posted by Boke View Post
    May I ask, if it's a kernel issue, why is android able to send MMS?
    That's a very good question. I was just repeating what I was told by a Nokia employee. Perhaps Android has some kernel patches implementing it? Hmm.

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    daperl | # 532 | 2009-08-31, 21:18 | Report

    @zerojay

    The head tilt was wrong.

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    tso | # 533 | 2009-08-31, 21:47 | Report

    Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
    Understood-- but apparently the target demographic for the N900 does.
    tho it helps nada, if the people they know do not...

    thats the thing here, more people have phone numbers and phones then have a email address.

    its not so much about the owners and users of the N900, but who they know and wants to communicate with...

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    tso | # 534 | 2009-08-31, 21:48 | Report

    Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
    That's a very good question. I was just repeating what I was told by a Nokia employee. Perhaps Android has some kernel patches implementing it? Hmm.
    if they have, they are bound by the gpl to release them...

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    Texrat | # 535 | 2009-08-31, 22:00 | Report

    Originally Posted by tso View Post
    tho it helps nada, if the people they know do not...

    thats the thing here, more people have phone numbers and phones then have a email address.

    its not so much about the owners and users of the N900, but who they know and wants to communicate with...
    Time for them to get an ovi.com email address!

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    tso | # 536 | 2009-08-31, 22:03 | Report

    btw, i cant find anything in the android git repo that indicates they did anything to the kernel to handle mms. it seems that its all done by a app, from what i can tell...

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    allnameswereout | # 537 | 2009-08-31, 23:06 | Report

    It runs in Java, user-space link

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    Multimedia Messaging Service, or MMS, is a telecommunications standard for sending messages that include multimedia objects (images, audio, video, rich text). MMS is an extension of the SMS standard, allowing longer message lengths and using WAP to display the content.
    Why would you run that in kernel-space instead of user space. WAP protocol runs in user space for sure. Although Symbian OS has microkernel. If you can get WAP implentation on Fremantle it shouldn't be too hard to get MMS working.

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    Texrat | # 538 | 2009-08-31, 23:27 | Report

    Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing View Post
    Good luck waiting for that one! ;-) I wouldn't, if I were you.
    so, E910?


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    zerojay | # 539 | 2009-08-31, 23:35 | Report

    Originally Posted by daperl View Post
    @zerojay

    The head tilt was wrong.

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    There you go, fixed in Fremantle!

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    Zargon | # 540 | 2009-08-31, 23:36 | Report

    Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing View Post
    Yes, having MMS on a feature phone is important, but the N900 isn't a feature phone with limited resources. . We prioritized our resources to have brilliant multitasking of the frequent use cases. You can share photos easily to the Internet or by email. Implementing MMS would have meant dragging the ancient WAP 1.2.1 standard used for the push notificatiom to a modern computer OS in times when our target audience wants to share high quality images to Flickr, Facebook, Picasa, Ovi and so on. MMS receipt would maybe gotten us far enough, so others can send her photo to you, but we decided to put our R&D into other areas. I hope consumers will forgive us for the time being.
    This, for me, is a major setback. Even if I see your point, with operators (at least in Portugal and Spain) giving away packages of 1500 SMS and 500 MMS for free on a weekly basis I think many users will think twice before changing to the N900.

    I do mail my pictures, upload them to Flickr, Twitter, etc. but when I want to take a quick shot and share it with someone I use MMS: Its free, doesn't add to my data plan and it works.

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