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Texrat | # 91 | 2009-08-31, 14:24 | Report

Originally Posted by krisse View Post

I was actually thinking of High Fidelity when I posted... :-)

Do you know that's actually a famous British book? They relocated the story to the States when it was filmed.

Yeah, I read that. Really enjoyed the movie. You could see Jack's potential in even his small scenes.

rcadden | # 92 | 2009-08-31, 14:40 | Report

My judgement of MicroB is based on my experience with it thus far (on the N800 and N810, with the latest software updates and all that jazz - I'm still *using* my N800, even if I've not participated here while doing so). It's also based on my other web browsing experiences, both on my various Symbian-powered devices (touch and non-touch) and on my laptops (including a few netbooks, such as the Fujitsu P1610, Dell Mini 9, and now Asus 1000HE). In contrast, microB is slower - significantly slower, regardless of where the site was designed for (full pages vs the custom tablet-only Maemo site, etc). It also doesn't synchronize with, well, anything, and struggles with Flash, specifically streaming media. It struggles with even sites like Google Reader.

@sjgadsby - thanks for the welcome.

javispedro | # 93 | 2009-08-31, 15:03 | Report

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post

That said, some Nokia employees are members of the community, but their participation is based on that, and not the fact that they're Nokia employees.

And that's a very good thing, can't see how someone could regard that as a bad thing, and hope to see them continue participating in whatever tmo gets converted to

.

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SD69 | # 94 | 2009-08-31, 15:24 | Report

Let's leave other topics such as MicroB for other threads.

People are looking where to draw lines around maemo.org that perhaps don't need to be drawn at all. Everyone can get some use out of the website. We expect there to be an influx of new people following Nokia World and approaching launch, and it seems (to me) that we should try to point them in the right direction within the website.

This post has a constructive suggestion for improvement that hasn't been discussed much:

Originally Posted by qgil View Post

maemo.org is the place where a user can join one day and end up 2 years later receiving a prototype for development or review before sales start, getting an invitation as Maemo community speaker at Nokia World or interviewing a Nokia VP on stage in the main room of the Maemo Summit. Plus 1001 other ways of learning, contributing, make maemo products better and make the Maemo community a better place to be.

The obvious entry points of maemo.org are Downloads, Talk and News. I believe Brainstorm can be the 4th leg of this platform of engagement. The lower and simpler access they provide to regular maemo users, the better to everybody.

There are ways to do this and at the same time keep happy (or even make happier) the core community contributors e.g. extras-testing/devel, a potential MaemoDevel tag in (micro)blogs and news, a deeper concentration in the Maemo 5 OS and Development subforums, a deeper involvement brainstorming solutions beyond voting... long etc.

These four legs make sense, although I would personally add the Wiki as a fifth leg. The current home page is not intuitive and the casual visitor is hit with elements that are unexpected. For example, we know what the favorites are, etc., but it is a bit unexplained and aggregating while very valuable is not really the main focus of the website. Personally, I like the community page because it actually has a welcome statement of some kind and is relatively easier to understand by someone new to the website.

Another thing is that there should be some quick and easy changes, such adding a link to m.n.c, etc., that could be done within a few weeks to make the home page more inviting, and then more substantial changes later.

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Texrat | # 95 | 2009-08-31, 15:41 | Report

Originally Posted by SD69 View Post

The current home page is not intuitive and the casual visitor is hit with elements that are unexpected. For example, we know what the favorites are, etc., but it is a bit unexplained and aggregating while very valuable is not really the main focus of the website. Personally, I like the community page because it actually has a welcome statement of some kind and is relatively easier to understand by someone new to the website.

Another thing is that there should be some quick and easy changes, such adding a link to m.n.c, etc., that could be done within a few weeks to make the home page more inviting, and then more substantial changes later.

I agree, and started one "bug" to address the issue of contextual links:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4959

Please vote and comment to show your support!

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JayOnThaBeat | # 96 | 2009-09-05, 10:40 | Report

Originally Posted by zerojay View Post

I think we have to understand that until this moment, most of the people that would come here were interested in contributing or at least being a power user whereas the next wave might never have the desire to be anything but an end user.

I don't write code.

I have trouble troubleshooting, because I find it a little too difficult to figure out exactly what went wrong when something goes wrong.

I consider myself to be an enthusiastic end-user.

I enjoy this community because I can try things, and when they don't work as expected, there are members who are willing to spend a little bit of their time to help me sort it out.

In return, I try to field some of the easy stuff when I see a question that I either know the answer to, or have a good idea about. Sometimes I even get something cool working and write a rediculously long post about exactly how I did it.

I'll be the first to admit that on occasion, I am known to snap at someone and/or talk sh*t, but that's just a personality thing that I (suppose

) I need to work on.

Anyway, my point is that I came here with a general "common sense" knowledge of what was to be expected. This may not be the place for "extreme noobs," but is definitely the perfect place for anyone who

a) knows how to work google
b) is willing to do a little bit of searching.

and

c) is curious as to just what you can get these tablets to do.

I'm glad to be a part of it all.

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Texrat | # 97 | 2009-09-05, 15:36 | Report

I'll welcome a highly curious user to this place any day!

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qole | # 98 | 2009-09-06, 04:02 | Report

I came here as an excited non-developer power-user type who had never owned a mobile computer smaller than a laptop, who had just stumbled across the most amazing device he had ever seen since he saw a personal computer for the first time in the mid-80s, and who was finding this forum showing up in every google search he did for the N800.

Sorry, what was the question again?

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JayOnThaBeat | # 99 | 2009-09-06, 04:22 | Report

Originally Posted by qole View Post

Sorry, what was the question again?

Originally Posted by ...

Who likes pie?

...that's the question I was answering.

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ki6amd | # 100 | 2009-09-06, 22:34 | Report

Originally Posted by yerga View Post

Another site created: http://www.maemomobiletalk.com/

It seems people don't read/don't care about trademarks.

...And it seems some people want the Maemo community to behave like Sony.

Yes, I am the blogger posting to MaemoMobileTalk, (not the Domain holder, nor did I set up the blog, etc.) but as you so carefully show, talk.maemo.org is probably not the best place to introduce people to the Maemo OS. Just like you probably would not introduce your grandmother to the Linux community by visiting the Ubuntu forums. Yes, Maemo.org has wonderful information, even for those just finding out about the N900, but is it really the best place for my dad, who's first "smart" phone was an iPhone, and doesn't have even 1 app on it? No.

Having informed new users join the Maemo community is what's important. As for criticizing people who use the name Maemo in their domains, think of all those people who use "Linux" and aren't members of the Linux Foundation. (Yes "Linux" is a trademark too, just like Microsoft, iPod, iPhone, etc) Should all the people using trademarked names be sued? I know what would happen if I started "BluerayReviews.com" and personally, the Maemo, and OSS community is better than that.

I'm reminded of MonsterCable (you know them) who's sued Monster Mini Golf, and virtually every company with "Monster" in the name. Is that what you'd like to see? No. I'm trying to promote the adoption of Maemo, not discourage people.

-SkylerV @ki6amd .com (go ahead send me your hate)

Edited for paragraph line spacing... I hear it drives python programmers insane (see next page)

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