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2009-09-18
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#72
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its been ages since i last looked at a old gray scale calc...
and these days, its 1337-speak, no?
and these days, its 1337-speak, no?
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2009-09-18
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Suspicion towards resistive screens and preference towards capacitive screens is somewhat understandable, because historically there have been very many bad experiences with resistive screens and some very well known good experiences with capacitive screens.
But it's an unfortunate mistake to make the association totally related to the screen technology. You can make a pretty good resistive experience, that's what the N900 shows. I'm all for finger usage, but having the ability to occasionally pop out the stylus for certain web pages is really actually also quite nice.
The experience is as strong as the weakest link. I'm pretty sure you can make a pretty bad experience also with a resistive display, providing your display drivers and SW then doesn't properly react to the input signals that the drivers provide.
But it's an unfortunate mistake to make the association totally related to the screen technology. You can make a pretty good resistive experience, that's what the N900 shows. I'm all for finger usage, but having the ability to occasionally pop out the stylus for certain web pages is really actually also quite nice.
The experience is as strong as the weakest link. I'm pretty sure you can make a pretty bad experience also with a resistive display, providing your display drivers and SW then doesn't properly react to the input signals that the drivers provide.
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by ragnar
Agreed. To me the argument has always been a veiled comparison to the iPhone... a way to compare a new device to the iPhone without using the word iPhone and risk turning off viewers who may be sick of hearing about the dang iPhone. (^that bit used the word 4 times... sickening
Suspicion towards resistive screens and preference towards capacitive screens is somewhat understandable, because historically there have been very many bad experiences with resistive screens and some very well known good experiences with capacitive screens.
But it's an unfortunate mistake to make the association totally related to the screen technology. You can make a pretty good resistive experience, that's what the N900 shows. I'm all for finger usage, but having the ability to occasionally pop out the stylus for certain web pages is really actually also quite nice.
The experience is as strong as the weakest link. I'm pretty sure you can make a pretty bad experience also with a resistive display, providing your display drivers and SW then doesn't properly react to the input signals that the drivers provide.
)What isn't often mentioned is the clock speed of the device the screens are attached to. Comparing one technology to the other on a device that could have almost double the CPU horsepower is a bit ingenuous if you ask me.
I wonder how the two technologies would compare with the same CPU, OS, but at various ambient temperatures.
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by Architengi
Now, people are entitled to their own opinions, of course. Personally, to me it feels a bit unwise to make absolute statements on behalf of every person, with what feels like very little actual experience with the particular device itself.
I thought BoyGeniusReport is the worst biased reviewer, but Joshua is 100 times more lame:
Joshua-quote: >>> "This N900 resistive simply does NOT work, a touch device that cannot be used with fingers... It's BAD... I mean is not THAT bad, but for a 800 US$ device... someone needs to tell Nokia how to do things, me, a person with experience, someone should go there and stop the production lines"
Joshua seems to expect that every piece of technology should behave EXACTLY like the capacitive technology works. Given that resistive technology is simply physically different from capacitive, you really can't make 1-to-1 comparisons in terms of what you exactly do with the finger... at least if you want to be a bit more objective about it.
What happens when some technology beyond capacitive comes to devices? Is Joshua going to be ranting about how bad capacitive is then?
Anyways, to put it very roughly, the resistive screens in general need slightly more pressure from the finger to work correctly. With that in mind, the screen can be very responsive.
I use both capacitive and resistive touchscreens every day, and I have no problems jumping from one to another.
Personally, I'm just happy that people with the desire to use stylus or who have long fingernails, or even people with gloves (in some cases) can use the resistive screen with no problems.
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by msoini
only when it starts showing up on products with a logo based on half-eaten fruit
What happens when some technology beyond capacitive comes to devices? Is Joshua going to be ranting about how bad capacitive is then?
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by Architengi
Maybe his muscles are just too atrophied to work the resistive screen :shrug:
And the whole first engadget show was sponsored by NOKIA, and right now Nokia is running top payed banner adds on his engadget site... and simply this guy josh slammed Nokia bad, bad. The device was presented at the end of the show, and actually no focus on the device, no specs, nothing. just slam, slam, slam... because he cannot use it by not touching with a bit more pressure, pressure is needed for resistive, if he does not know that, stop making phone reviews and get a life...
I found the article about what's in his bag amusing. Especially when he tries to defend his pricey metro hipster accessories in the comments esp. the colorful Steven Harrington sleeve and Jack Spade bag (MSRP $475)
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/07/u...shua-topolsky/
Not that I have any particular problems with what he carries... but if you're going to be "secure" enough to carry stuff like that like he claims he is and then show the whole world, you ought to be secure enough to realize people are going to comment about it and just igore the negative comments.
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2009-09-18
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#78
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Originally Posted by tso
Ya mean like this?
only when it starts showing up on products with a logo based on half-eaten fruit
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2009-09-18
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Engadget Show is like having a meeting with my parents, talking about technology and devices, while knowing nothing about anything. Sorry, if i had a show and could present the N900, i would talk ABOUT THE DEVICE, not about what i like or dislike...
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2009-09-18
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Originally Posted by YoDude
That's just Bananas TM
Ya mean like this?
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Last edited by qole; 2009-09-18 at 08:39.