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2009-10-12
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Originally Posted by rm42
Mandriva has urpmi (had it for ages) and it also works really well.
Fedora uses a new package manager called KPackagekit which works rather well and is very fast. Also, PCLinuxOS uses aptget/Synaptic with RPMs with excellent results.
Ultimately it depends on the quality of the packages/repositories and on the distribution policies, not on the packaging system itself (deb and rpm have more or less the same features).
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2009-10-12
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@ New Jersey, USA
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I use GNOME (recently with a tiling window manager - xmonad) and I'm mostly happy with it, don't expect I'll be switching to KDE any time soon. I used to try every new significant KDE release and always went away disappointed finding it incredibly unusable, bloated and unstable. At some point I just lost any hope and interest and stopped trying. Maybe I'll take a look at 4.3, but I don't have high hopes.
I also generally prefer GTK applications over Qt applications as most Qt apps seem to insist on being KDE apps and seem to possess same bloated unusable feel.
Having said that, I am currently rewriting Aard Dictionary UI in Qt (PyQt4) - mostly to take advantage of Qt's WebKit integration, but also for more native look & feel on various platforms and for the fun of it - and I am pleasantly surprised with Qt quality and ease of development (and it looks like GTK when running in GNOME
). Nokia's announcements regarding Qt on Maemo is certainly another strong argument for Qt. Not sure if it does much for KDE though.
Last edited by itkach; 2009-10-12 at 15:54. Reason: typo
I also generally prefer GTK applications over Qt applications as most Qt apps seem to insist on being KDE apps and seem to possess same bloated unusable feel.
Having said that, I am currently rewriting Aard Dictionary UI in Qt (PyQt4) - mostly to take advantage of Qt's WebKit integration, but also for more native look & feel on various platforms and for the fun of it - and I am pleasantly surprised with Qt quality and ease of development (and it looks like GTK when running in GNOME
). Nokia's announcements regarding Qt on Maemo is certainly another strong argument for Qt. Not sure if it does much for KDE though.
Last edited by itkach; 2009-10-12 at 15:54. Reason: typo
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2009-10-12
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#34
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no need for switching, as long time KDE user since 0.beta4 :-)
You can ask the question also in a differend way: how many "Gearheads" (aka KDEler) start to discover Maemo?
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/12/free-n900
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4078
Bye
Thorsten (1st post) :-)
You can ask the question also in a differend way: how many "Gearheads" (aka KDEler) start to discover Maemo?
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/12/free-n900
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4078
Bye
Thorsten (1st post) :-)
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2009-10-12
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@ A place with no mountains
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Originally Posted by schnebeck
Welcome to the forum
no need for switching, as long time KDE user since 0.beta4 :-)
You can ask the question also in a differend way: how many "Gearheads" (aka KDEler) start to discover Maemo?
http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/12/free-n900
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4078
Bye
Thorsten (1st post) :-)
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2009-10-12
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Originally Posted by Verythrax
It seems it's just you. Which makes your response the flamebait. Funny how that works. Oh, and Microsoft's the devil.
PS: item 4 is just flamebait or it's just me?
Like someone else said, no need to switch. My Hildon-Python apps run in Kubuntu just fine. 95% of my code is developed in that environment. And the Webkit Qt integration should result in more browser choices for Maemo.
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2009-10-12
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As a complete noob to open source and linux, I am trying to decide whether to start with Gnome or KDE. I think I have decided on Ubuntu for my starting distro.
The whole reason for even considering the switch is due to the possibilities I see with the N900. Nokia may think that this device has a limited target audience, but they may be surprised how many people (like me) there are that are looking for a mobile computer with phone capabilities. I am even making the switch to Linux so that I can better understand my N900.
The whole reason for even considering the switch is due to the possibilities I see with the N900. Nokia may think that this device has a limited target audience, but they may be surprised how many people (like me) there are that are looking for a mobile computer with phone capabilities. I am even making the switch to Linux so that I can better understand my N900.
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2009-10-12
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Another issue that I've always had is I'm not a fan of the KDE compositioning manager, I prefer Compiz. And never had the time to set down and get it working 100% (disabling/removing KDE's and replacing it with Compiz).
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-10-12
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Originally Posted by rm42
I appreciate the info. I just tried Kubuntu Karmic beta. (Had NVidia driver problems... won't go into details here.)
... I have not run into any dependency problems with Fedora at all in the last two years, since I started using it. Fedora uses a new package manager called KPackagekit which works rather well and is very fast. Also, PCLinuxOS uses aptget/Synaptic with RPMs with excellent results. I have been using PCLinuxOS for about 4 years and I have not had any trouble whatsoever with dependencies. I think that more important than the package format used is the person doing the packages and maintaining them. I would advice you not to limit yourself unnecessarily.
Next up: OpenSUSE (11.2-Milestone8) with KDE 4.3.2 and kernel 2.6.31. It is installing as I type.
But I might have the same issues with OpenSUSE that I had with Kubuntu: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Instal..._ThinkPad_T61p
If I don't stick with OpenSUSE, I'll try Mandriva or PCLInuxOS next.
Just figured I would let everyone know what I'm trying. Thanks again for the tips.
And, right. Microsoft's the devil.
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2009-10-12
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Originally Posted by bronzetank
My situation was similar to yours with the N810 and Ubuntu a while back. For me, moving to Linux has been great. I'd never go back. I wish you the same good experiences.
As a complete noob to open source and linux, I am trying to decide whether to start with Gnome or KDE. I think I have decided on Ubuntu for my starting distro.
The whole reason for even considering the switch is due to the possibilities I see with the N900. Nokia may think that this device has a limited target audience, but they may be surprised how many people (like me) there are that are looking for a mobile computer with phone capabilities. I am even making the switch to Linux so that I can better understand my N900.
If you go with Ubuntu, Gnome seems the way to go because, as I found out today, most the Ubuntu help seems oriented toward Gnome. When I had Kubuntu questions today I realized how much harder it is to get quick answers. For a noob who has decided on Ubuntu, your life will be easier with Gnome.
I've been pretty happy with Ubuntu these last couple years. I think it was the right way for me to get started with Linux.
BTW, why does everyone call it "Gnome" instead of GDE?
PS In before it was cool. :P