qgil | # 21 | 2009-11-04, 15:27 | Report

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...n_the_Internet

Check that list against the list of countries where the N900 will be sold and you will get a quite accurate list of languages that already have Maemo forums or a looking for having one.

NvyUs | # 22 | 2009-11-04, 15:32 | Report

Why not do a trial run of maybe 1 or 2 subforums then decide after the period to expand or drop the idea.
maybe during the trial choose a language what we know we already have many natives of on here and one that seems not so poplar then we can see how good it would be at attracting new members of that language

Matyas | # 23 | 2009-11-04, 16:36 | Report

Dear Friends,

I personally support the idea of native speaker, maemo.org censored, fora. Since I am only a power user, I do not have much to add in the english section. But I could prove useful in condensing/translating useful materials in french and italian (where I am native speaker) and performing general moderator task.

In fact, the target of non English fora could be the end users rather than developers. These fora could be a first step toward a multilingual maemo.org, containing the most relevant infos and tutorials. I know there is already a user forum at nokia.com (only in English). Here instead, we could focus more on advanced support (à la MER or ssh, not talking about "how do I turn on the device").

All the Best
Matyas (real name: Mattia)

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RevdKathy | # 24 | 2009-11-04, 16:47 | Report

I wonder if there might be a way of doing both and neither.

Right now, as qgil has said, there's a proliferation of maemo related communities. It's a hot topic.

On the other hand, this place is the 'Official', nokia sponsored place not only for fora but both all things maemo.

I'm hearing concern that Other Places might spread misinformation (which would be bad for maemo generally) and concern that multi-lingual subfora would drain much needed resources from maemo.org (which would be bad for this place).

What about inviting them to some sort of 'link exchange'? If we have speakers of most languages around, they might do a once over now and again of a 'non-nokia' site to check for obvious garbage? The other site would gain the kudos of an official link to the 'nokia funded' site. We would gain a nice collection of foreign language companions - who will most likely be end-user orientated. And enough leverage to ***** at them if they pass something as gospel that is pure apochrypha (like, say, a release date...)

Would that help the problem?

(My first language is gibberish)

abu9al7 | # 25 | 2009-11-04, 16:55 | Report

Well .. my opinion about this Idea is that will not be a good Idea !!

I will try to explain as much as I could and I hope that my English vocabulary will help me

1. The more customization & specialization the more better . When you focus on a lot of things you will lost your focusing . Lots of forums at the same place will make the users and the visitors unconvertible .

2. It will make more pressure to the administrators

3. It will give the Non-English Speakers less area to discuss all aspects of the Maemo OS .

I think this is the major causes to not agree with the Idea .

But the good thing on the Idea that it will make some people feels good that Maemo community care about them


When every language has its separated website , the problems above will be resolved . so , they will have there own main forums and blog as well as the Programs Download Center


qgil شكرا جزيلا

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jeremiah | # 26 | 2009-11-04, 17:05 | Report

I think sub-fora in other languages is a good idea. I see other fora springing up, for example where I live in Sweden there is now http://maemosverige.com "Maemo Sweden"

mrojas | # 27 | 2009-11-04, 17:48 | Report

I think that there should be some way to fit non-English speaking users in talk.maemo.org. How can someone complain that non-english users have wrong information when one of the main sources of info is in a language they don't understand?

Of course that another language may be outside of the comfort zone of many people here, but I think there is going to be always a couple of guys willing to bridge the gap. I would help: my native language is Spanish, and I would love to do my part spreading more of the official word, instead of having to fight daily rumors and misinformation from third sources (like I already do).

claesbas | # 28 | 2009-11-04, 17:51 | Report

I am new to that sub-fora places spread misleading and bad information so much as you say. What type of misinfo is this usually? I personally will try to backup everything I write with a link to a credible site and I am a fanboy of Maemo and open-source so I would not try to write bad things about Maemo or Nokia.. and if someone report that I got some facts wrong I would apologize and correct it public..

What goes on in the forums is harder to control but that is the right for free speech.

I think this maemo.org site might spread misleading info about the iphone however

French, spanish, chinese and other huge languages would probably benefit from subforums here I think..

If Nokia decides MaemoSverige and other unofficial webistes is a less good thing for Nokia/Maemo please tell me..

Maybe a legal notice of some sort in the footer would be good. Saying MaemoSverige has nothing to do with official Nokia..... ?

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maacruz | # 29 | 2009-11-04, 17:55 | Report

I'd rather have a subforum here in my native language [spanish] than go out there hunting for other forums of dubious quality, which I don't since one forum is enough for me and I'm comfortable enough in english.
To those of you who defend only-english, I say that you are forcing out a whole lot of people who don't know english, and no, internet is far from only-english nowadays.

NikiSk | # 30 | 2009-11-04, 18:28 | Report

Well, it is complicated to say whether other language forums are needed.

Since I understand only two languages - Bulgarian and English, forums with different languages than these above wouldn't be understandable to me.

If there is a valuable to me content in these other forums I will miss it. This option sounds like a separation and I am definitely against it.

If the content is just translated and people discuss it in their most convenient language it is OK. This will bring additional people to the table and make it more accessible.

Still the way things are now is ok. I am pretty sure I won't see a Bulgarian sub-forum. The problems is that you have to read my crappy English.