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    JBax | # 311 | 2009-11-10, 09:08 | Report

    Looks like 16th is looking very good, CEO announced N900 have started shipping early this morning.

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    dreadnought | # 312 | 2009-11-10, 09:11 | Report

    Originally Posted by JBax View Post
    Looks like 16th is looking very good, CEO announced N900 have started shipping early this morning.
    I'm kinda hoping that they might get it earlier and ship it off quicker than that...after all, they did claim that they were going to be the first ones in the country to have it...we'll see

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    JBax | # 313 | 2009-11-10, 09:15 | Report

    Originally Posted by dreadnought View Post
    I'm kinda hoping that they might get it earlier and ship it off quicker than that...after all, they did claim that they were going to be the first ones in the country to have it...we'll see
    Here is to hoping!

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    evad | # 314 | 2009-11-10, 10:06 | Report

    Originally Posted by JBax View Post
    Looks like 16th is looking very good, CEO announced N900 have started shipping early this morning.
    If I've had N900 to play with for this weekend, I'd be in heaven! :D

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    stamenkd | # 315 | 2009-11-10, 10:30 | Report

    http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/...gins-shipping/

    Nokia has begun shipping, presumably to retailers..
    Any ideas how long it would take to get to MPD then to us? Is Friday too optimistic?

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    evad | # 316 | 2009-11-10, 10:36 | Report

    Originally Posted by stamenkd View Post
    http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/...gins-shipping/

    Nokia has begun shipping, presumably to retailers..
    Any ideas how long it would take to get to MPD then to us? Is Friday too optimistic?
    MPD chat transcript, just seconds ago:

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    Dawid says:
      i've just read the news that Nokia N900 has started shipping
    Dawid says:
      does that mean ordes at MPD will get shipped very soon too?
    Webshop Customer Help says:
      it means it is being shipped from Finland and wil be in UK soon, it has to go through several stages prior to us receiving them
    Dawid says:
      what is expected shipping to customers date then?
    Webshop Customer Help says:
      mid novmber 16th 17th ish
    Dawid says:
      ok, so no chance for this weekend then... :(
    Webshop Customer Help says:
      no, afraid not
    Dawid says:
      ok, thanks

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    stamenkd | # 317 | 2009-11-10, 10:38 | Report

    hehe I just had a similar conversation, poor guys they're going to be inundated with chats

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    stamenkd | # 318 | 2009-11-10, 10:39 | Report

    Originally Posted by evad View Post
    MPD chat transcript, just seconds ago:

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    Dawid says:
    ....
    Webshop Customer Help says:
      it means it is being shipped from Finland and wil be in UK soon, it has to go through several stages prior to us receiving them
    ....

    Do they actually ship from Finland or China?

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    jjx | # 319 | 2009-11-10, 11:45 | Report

    Originally Posted by speculatrix View Post
    Or, I would, if 3's service was more reliable! :-) It goes up and down like a yo yo; when it's up at full strength that doesn't mean any data will actually flow through it

    Fundamentally, though, 3G at 2.1GHz is "broken" in that it's not really the best frequency for a mobile service - even GSM at 1.8GHz suffered from the problems of getting good RF coverage, and 2.1GHz is worse - signal absorbtion by trees, walls etc. I'm hoping that operators will be allowed to run 3G services over the GSM spectrum at some point, but it probably won't happen to maintain the stitch-up that was the original massive licensing costs of the 3G auctions.
    I agree, it's not the best RF. The signal varies so much as you walk a few metres inside and outside, like it's oscillating with position, which implies interference patterns.

    Absorption will certainly make that worse, but it's also an issue of band diversity: More diversity (even using the same aggregate bandwidth) would tend smooth out the peaks and troughs in reception. If the operators collaborated better they could have the same slice of the pie each as they do now, but make the reception more consistent for everyone.

    Still, none of this explains why 3 sometimes shows great reception but little or no data throughput!

    Another problem with 3, at the moment, is they really don't like you using 2G mode, because that uses their partner networks and costs them. So all the 3 phones I've used to date will lock onto a very weak 3G signal rather than a great 2G signal - even just for calls and texts. The result is poor reception in those circumstances.

    That's something which might conceivably get better with the T-Mobile infrastructure merge - because T-Mobile have 2G hardware themselves, and 3 clearly don't.

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    jjx | # 320 | 2009-11-10, 11:48 | Report

    Not that any 3 discussion matters while the N900 won't work with 3 USIMs!

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