I think we should be moving forward and away from MMS.
Reasons:
1. N900 has 5meg camera
2. MMS limits 350kb per message
3. N900 requires software to compress image down to MMS size
4. Waste of resource to develop this functionality when the N900 can take advantage of the 3G & HSPDA network to upload high quality photos, link can be sent through message or social networking sites.
5. In order to see the MMS, the other person would need an MMS compatible phone
6. Not a lot of demand for MMS nowdays to be honest, users take the photos with the camera on their phone (N900) they prefer to go home and upload it on the net (Facebook, twitter etc) rather than sending an MMS to a dozen of contacts.
1. And?
2. Does it do the job, "sharing the moment"? Yes. Then, so what? Are we expecting to have poster size printout quality for "sharing the moment"?
3. Which MMS enabled phone doesn't do that?
4. Waste of chance where people don't have access to those advanced features or don't know hot to use them; but MMS is as common and intuitive as SMS is.
5. In order to benefit from other solutions, you still need a solution enabled phone. Also, how many modern phones (except very cheap ones) are there without MMS compatibility? I'm sure they're more than web/mail etc enabled phones.
6. Do you think all the world is behaving as the people around you? Also, does it hurt to have MMS besides using modern web?
Abandoning MMS for net based services is kinda like abandoning SMS for IM services. I know they have their advantages and maybe we can abandon both and more in the future, but no; now is not the exact right time.
The funny thing is that I've been working on a SMSC/MMSC related project and have a little insight on MMS (yes, it really is a mess and a good candidate for cruft). Anyhow, it was interesting to see the scales on a provider's level. I knew MMS was a minority compared to SMS but it turns out the question is not by how much, but by how many ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE. Seeing this I fully understand why someone would let MMS (and the things it requires) die and rather spend that time on something that will actually improve the experience for ALL users.
Right on!
MMS was designed from the get go as a means for carriers to squeeze more revenue from the subscriber and to provide functions that the carriers focus groups said customers wanted without opening up the "web" to the customer.
It is restrictive and definitely not neutral and it's acceptance by the public was good at first, but it was "too little too late" for a lot of people who went with better phones anyway.
There are plenty of web based solutions that will cut down image size and send your pictures to the MMS only phones of people who are stuck with their MMS only phones because of 2 year contracts that they signed in order to get that "free" phone that was such a good idea 1 1/2 years ago.
But that is not why I objected to this article:
Originally Posted by Me, earlier in this thread
Originally Posted by mrojas
"plagued by delays"
For ****'s sake, it was delayed, what, 10 days?
Yup, that bit of hyperbole got me too...
I guess this now means Jared Newman's writing style is "infected by the puss oozing pox of inaccuracy".
EDIT: Added bio link and reference.
Originally Posted by
Main Entry: plague Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): plagued; plagu·ing
Date: 15th century1 : to smite, infest, or afflict with or as if with disease, calamity, or natural evil
2 a : to cause worry or distress to : hamper, burden b : to disturb or annoy persistently
synonyms see worry
— plagu·er noun
That's^ why... As someone else said " he could have taken his text straight from this forum" or some such.
Not including MMS and not supporting portrait mode are two decisions that I do not understand. Whether you use MMS or not, lots of people do and they aren't going to be placated by workarounds like sending URLs via SMS.
Think of it this way. If MMS was available on the N900 more people would use it than would ever even think about getting root. By orders of magnitude. It's something that consumers notice is missing.
has far has app store, iphone been out ova 3years plenty of time to get loads of apps so in time loads of apps will be out!!
Ha! true..... even iphone store have millions of apps, report said only 10% apps people really used, So sad for the iphone developer which create something no one want to use. hahahaha
Reading the MMS might require connecting to a different APN, it is not a mere getting a URL from an SMS and pointing your browser to it.
The URL I mentioned is not the url sent via wap push, it is a site designed for a person to access to retrieve the message with a standard browser and standard internet connection.
Apple’s App Store celebrates one year of being in business today. It has certainly been quite a year. Over 56,000 apps and over a billion downloads is nothing to sneeze at.
Guilty as charged. The thing is, I used to mention the iPhone's lack of MMS in passing, because the iPhone lacked so many basic features - video recording, cut/copy & paste, A2DP &c.
But it has those now. The push from "iPhone doesn't even have MMS" to "The N900 doesn't need MMS" smacks of acceptance and basically forgetting that something like MMS was a point, but now it's not!?
Way too convenient.
Originally Posted by
The article comes across as somewhat ignorant in a number of ways. I guess it's been noted that sending an MMS to "friends and family" would probably set you back a couple bucks at the very least, and people who are actually interested in your baby pictures - or whatever it is you feel you have to share instantly - would have subscribed to your flickr/twitter/faecebook.
Here we agree. It's a feature I really didn't miss, but when I got them sent to me, it was INFURIATING to use a link, with a slightly complex username but somewhat simple password and not be near a computer.
Originally Posted by
I guess Ovi store is a problem for medium-to-low-tech users, or the kinds of users who really feel they need an app to make fart sounds for them. I don't expect all those Debian apps to pass through Ovi, though. The N900 was never aimed at iPhone users, so I can see how it would fail in that sense.
Ovi is a bigger problem because people will think that they're buying a phone with zero apps. Consumers tend to not do little things like research. So they can't get Tetris... or they can't get Brightkite, or they can't send a message to another phone without using e-mail... sounds like the iPhone in its first outing. Boring as hell.
Ovi is a problem because it just doesn't have the apps that are quickly compelling... yet. And I'm tired of waiting with an product in my hand and no apps to do what I really want.
