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2009-11-21 , 07:14
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Originally Posted by sadfist View Post
2 bugs already hit. symbol entry seems messed up (they dont all work) and got a email that was 'too long'
Press space or a letter key.
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2009-11-21 , 09:16
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#332
Originally Posted by somedude View Post
guys can you report the total memory free after boot up and how much is available for the app?
Originally Posted by sadfist View Post
top is giving me 6796kb free with this window and the terminal open

edit: went up to around 20mb (wtf i cant type a tilde)
Its Linux with 768MB SWAP so you cannot tell that way. For example my desktop with 8GB of RAM reports:
Code:
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          8004       7952         52          0        587       4990
-/+ buffers/cache:       2374       5630
Notice it claims only 52MB free memory but HUGE quantities of buffers and cache. As someone explained to me recently, that cache will quickly be dumped to disk when the RAM is needed so you can basically add those to your free RAM amount.

So its fairly safe to say a pretty large chunk of the 256MB is available for use.

That's one thing I was always both impressed and disappointed about Linux. The games it does have you get none of that "churn churn" when quitting like you do on Windows, it always seems to handle memory excellent and quit instantly. The disappointment being how few commercial games are natively supported.
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2009-11-21 , 09:38
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#333
Originally Posted by amorek13 View Post
change your settings to internet2.voicestream.com
Why change the settings? Is that VPN like faster or something?
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2009-11-21 , 10:21
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#334
Originally Posted by MNX1024 View Post
Currently posting on my N900 at NYC Flagship Store!!!
haha, nice! I was picking mine up at about that same minute!
 
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2009-11-21 , 10:32
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#335
Originally Posted by somedude View Post
guys can you report the total memory free after boot up and how much is available for the app?
after a clean boot:

BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso26+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 245548 197660 47888 0 3468
Swap: 786424 0 786424
Total: 1031972 197660 834312
~ $
 
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2009-11-21 , 11:22
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#336
On Linux the "free" command doesn't give a good idea of available mem. Use "cat /proc/meminfo" instead. From meminfo the amount of "Available" RAM can be approximately counted as:

MemFree + Buffers + Cached + SwapCached.

Code:
Nokia-N900:~# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:       245548       234932        10616            0         5184
 Swap:       786424       114760       671664                          
Total:      1031972       349692       682280                          
Nokia-N900:~# cat /proc/meminfo 
MemTotal:         245548 kB           
MemFree:           10616 kB           
Buffers:            5184 kB
Cached:            69648 kB
SwapCached:        65652 kB
Active:            88048 kB
Inactive:          78396 kB
Active(anon):      46172 kB
Inactive(anon):    58544 kB
Active(file):      41876 kB
Inactive(file):    19852 kB
Unevictable:       20836 kB
Mlocked:           17832 kB
SwapTotal:        786424 kB
SwapFree:         671664 kB
Dirty:                 0 kB
Writeback:             0 kB
AnonPages:         86008 kB
Mapped:            51216 kB
Slab:              12160 kB
SReclaimable:       4168 kB
SUnreclaim:         7992 kB
PageTables:         6832 kB
NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
Bounce:                0 kB
WritebackTmp:          0 kB
CommitLimit:      909196 kB
Committed_AS:     611480 kB
VmallocTotal:     122880 kB
VmallocUsed:       12944 kB
VmallocChunk:      77880 kB
10616+5184+69648+65652=151100

eg 150MB is "free" for a app. Even more can be freed by swapping more apps out, but that will slow down the phone.

The tilde "~" issue is clearly a big usability issue. It should somehow tell users that the "second row" is actually a modifier key row.
 

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2009-11-21 , 13:08
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#337
Yeah, the N900, but clearly some issues:

Within the first hour of using it last night while web browsing 1) the entire phone rebooted itself once, and 2) the web browser crashed on a separate occasion.

I can see #2 happening, but #1 should never happen. This is Linux and not DOS right?

There are some usability quirks for sure.
Also it's not letting me configure my Exchange server account, possibly because I use a self-signed cert? I'll have to look into this issue further.

I wish for a google-maps app. Absolutely critical - may try to get maemo mapper working, but I need google maps with up to date POI information. Using google maps in the browser is well, unusable.... hopefully in due course if Maemo gets popular enough google will release a native app (even Symbian had a native google app).
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2009-11-21 , 13:09
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#338
Anyone knows if they still have the n900 in the NYC store? Do you still need to put the name on the list?
 
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2009-11-21 , 13:09
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#339
This is all a bit worrying, non? Especially after the units supposedly being held back to iron out bugs...
 
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2009-11-21 , 13:12
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#340
Guys seriously stop worrying about the memory, go find the other thread in the forums that discusses how Linux uses RAM. I really wish the free command was one they would get rid of as it just gives noobs a wrong impression.
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