N900 - Yes, it sucks. - Page 7 - maemo.org

MisterSim76 | # 61 | 2009-11-24, 18:59 | Report

Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post

Yup...It works fine with the media player.

As far as the iphone: http://www.att.com/

Hmmmm...tell me honestly now, are you a Jobsian Troll?

mattmull | # 62 | 2009-11-24, 19:01 | Report

Jobsian trolls are mythical creatures, that supposedly feed on the tears of people waiting for their n900s.

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Rotkaeqpchen | # 63 | 2009-11-24, 19:07 | Report

Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post

Overall

+ Feels solid
+ Great screen
+ Good sound quality from speakers/phone
+ Pretty fast camera
+ Good keyboard
+ USB charging/sync
+ Customizable desktop
+ Fast GPS lock
+ Nice Task Switching
+ Very nice OS

Obviously you ARE mega crazy when you then say its garbage?!

Texrat | # 64 | 2009-11-24, 19:08 | Report

Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post

I am starting to get the feeling we're all wasting our time.

Today's nominee for best unintended irony.

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Laughing Man | # 65 | 2009-11-24, 19:12 | Report

Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post

Well the consensus seems to be that this is just step 4 out of 5 and that it's still in development and that everyone did the same thing (releasing half baked products). Sure, maybe that's the case but let's look at the competition.

What does this phone do better than the iPhone/Android?

Samsung has had widgets for how long now?

Android has had the panoramic desktop with links etc. for how long now?

So, if you are expecting to sell a product, surely it does something better than your competition...no?

The title is there to get people talking. I love this phone but that doesn't mean it doesn't fall short of the competition. Hence the "garbage" remark. It falls short of Android and of the iPhone as well.

Can Apple, Samsung, and Android boot into Debian? Can they run KDE? What about Open Office? Sure there's smartphone office apps but not a true office program. Granted you may not want to use those things but those are the capabilities that Maemo provides. If someone provides a mobile office program on Maemo then you can run that and OpenOffice then. Is that something any of those manufacturers can do? Hence why I say the n900 is more tablet than phone. Also why I say if your looking for a smartphone your on the wrong platform right now. That won't be till the next step at the very least.

Originally Posted by pagesix1536 View Post

Is it reasonable to assume that once this device gets into the hands of the public, that we'll start to see some of our favorite MP3 player apps from the Linux desktop get ported over to Maemo? I'm willing to bet that when there's a void like this, the community will step up to fill it provided they are able to use the tools to make that happen. The SDK is available, I think we'll for sure see this sort of thing happen a lot.

Straight ports I don't know. There probably were on the older tablets but I don't think I tried them. But with the previous tablets there were quite a few music programs built for the platform. Canola, MediaBox, Kagu, YouAmp were just some of them (the ones I tried at least). It was kind of strange having that many music programs no my device so I just kept Mediabox and Youamp. I'm happy that Mediabox is coming to the n900 since it has a really spiffy interface and the developer is involved with the community.

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Megacrazy | # 66 | 2009-11-24, 19:13 | Report

Originally Posted by Rotkaeqpchen View Post

Obviously you ARE mega crazy when you then say its garbage?!

Maybe or maybe you fail to see that most of those are hardware related.

It's in the individual apps where things start going downhill fast. The idea of the OS is pretty cool but saying it needs more work is an understatement.

stemfour | # 67 | 2009-11-24, 19:14 | Report

Megacrazy does raise some valid points but he has set himself up for a backlash creating a thread like this, especially when there are existing threads for feedback on the device.

To be fair though he doesnt sound like a troll to me, merely someone with conflicting feelings that maybe he didnt put across too well. Having said that he has made quite an effort with his breakdown, some detail there!

It would be very interesting however if this thread stayed open and we got to see how these issues are resolved in time for him/her.

So I'll be watching this ( and every other N900 related ) space in anticipation. Hopefully one day ( Dec 3rd? ) I'll be able to chuck in my opinion of the device.

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Bratag | # 68 | 2009-11-24, 19:16 | Report

Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post

Maybe or maybe you fail to see that most of those are hardware related.

It's in the individual apps where things start going downhill fast. The idea of the OS is pretty cool but saying it needs more work is an understatement.

And you bought the very first shipment of the very first device to run the OS thinking what exactly?

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sevla | # 69 | 2009-11-24, 19:16 | Report

I don't understand what this device being a "mobile computer" has to do with effective scrolling. So because it's so called not a smart phone means it's ok if the scrolling is choppy or if basic features that consumers expect are missing? That doesn't make any sense. Regardless of his "rants" he has raised legitimate points that nobody seems to want to address. I think he is trying to say that the device is not as polished as say the iPhone. The question is WHY and how do we make it better, not calling him a whiner. The iPhone does not do a lot of things but it does a small set of things very very well. Nokia should take note of that and apply it to there products.

Being a mobile computer rather then a smart phone does not mean basic functionality should be not be working or just missing all together. Instead of immediately coming to the defense a piece of electronics why not deal with the issue which can make the phone better.

The iPhone has set a standard in terms of UI. Nokia needs to anticipate the fact that it's phones (mobile computers or whatever the hell you want to call it) will be compared to the likes of the iPhone. If it falls short people are going to wonder why, especially if they have comparable hardware.

Last edited by sevla; 2009-11-24 at 19:18.

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Rushmore | # 70 | 2009-11-24, 19:17 | Report

Originally Posted by hqh View Post

I just successfully made a phone call, so the phone part did everything I was expecting it to do. Wouldn't call it garbage

It works a lot better than most S60 phones with their first firmware versions.

Still would make more sense than original post.