To the poster, for instance if you had goggled "Linux TOP" you could have read the man page on TOP and figured out hot to exit the app on your own.
And I'm also pretty sure that people would've been glad to answer if his question had been "How do I get out of top?" instead of "teach me all basic linux commands", because that is like waving a hammer in front of a carpenter and saying "teach me everything you can make with this" and then calling him "rude and elitist" if he asks you to study it yourself.
There is no benefit to making newcomers feel they are being treated rudely. We can argue all we want that we were not being rude, but if it comes across as rude or elitist, then maybe we have room for improvement. (Of course, the newcomers need to follow the code of conduct too, so it cuts both ways.)
If I was that guy I would be embarrassed that you just expended 100x more "effort" than he did! NICE SPOON FEED!
There is no benefit to making newcomers feel they are being treated rudely. We can argue all we want that we were not being rude, but if it comes across as rude or elitist, then maybe we have room for improvement. (Of course, the newcomers need to follow the code of conduct too, so it cuts both ways.)
I really really believe that if you have the stamina to answer these types of questions from new users, you should help the old curmudgeons too by making a wiki page with your helpful information in it and pointing the new user to that page. Then the old curmudgeons can snap off a curt post that points to the wiki page and be both brief and helpful at the same time.
If I was that guy I would be embarrassed that you just expended 100x more "effort" than he did! NICE SPOON FEED!
you know, with the time you spent on all your posts complaining about spoon-feeding information and looking up those nice pictures, you could've told him a few beginner's commands instead.
i believe in free fish, btw.
caring for the weak and less fortunate is one of the most human trades of all.
you know, with the time you spent on all your posts complaining about spoon-feeding information and looking up those nice pictures, you could've told him a few beginner's commands instead.
i believe in free fish, btw.
caring for the weak and less fortunate is one of the most human trades of all.
I've been training and developing Data Engineers since 1985. Lots of them now make between $150K-$250K a year now. I found them all over the place like retail sales, salesman at liquor stores, working in Gas stations, etc. This ain't my first Rodeo.
Yeah, you can just pick up the spoon I suppose. I'm not inclined that way. I don't believe in a Free, Lazy, Socialistic way of Life either. Linux is not for the Lazy, sorry, it's not.
You want to expend some effort, try to learn and teach yourself, I'm all about helping those guys out. There's two ways to reply to the treatment I'm doing here:
1) You can cry and piss and moan, and say how rude and mean I am. And get other tards to throw in with you and say, yeah that guys IS mean and rude! And then YOU guys can hang out around the campfire and well do what people like you do around the campfire.
or
2) You can say, wow, he's right, I didn't expend 3 nanoseconds of effort before I posted something that has been asked already by 18 quintrillion other noobies before me. I am freakin' lazy. Next time I want some information, maybe I'll at least Google a little and spend 5 minutes reading and getting my own answer. Maybe I'll learn 10 other things about Linux while getting that one answer. Then maybe next time I'll ask an educated question rather than a lazy ignorant question.
I prefer obviously for #2 to happen. Because to me it yields better results in the end.
Make sure you understand what I am saying here. It has to do with the effort expended before the question is posed how I react. Not the question itself. However, some questions in themselves show that ZERO effort was expended. The original question was certainly one of those.
To me the end result desired is for someone to THINK before they post. Do a little work before they post. It produces a better POST. So in the end, it is of more use to the Noobie, who expends ZERO effort, to get beat up a little. Next time, he'll ask a better question that shows he has some skin in the game. Those are the guys you want to help.
Ohh, and I hope you see that I was not trying to avoid effort associated with answering a question. If that was the deal, I wouldn't have said anything at all.
les_garten, what's the point in a community if people don't help each other out? If you google "xterm", you wont find a newb-friendly explenation to it, but a bunch of confusing sites with answers that he wouldn't understand. talk.maemo.org isn't here so that you can boost your ego up by pretending to be superior to newcomers. As SubCore said, you should consider an attitude change, instead of looking for excuses & ways of telling people they're making a fool out of themselves.
You're no-one to judge whether he has to know it or not, his original question was "what is xterminal for?", so you could either answer it with your knowledge or ignore it. By acting like a spoilt brat, you didn't give a positive impression, so either way you lost the game.
les_garten, what's the point in a community if people don't help each other out? If you google "xterm", you wont find a newb-friendly explenation to it, but a bunch of confusing sites with answers that he wouldn't understand. talk.maemo.org isn't here so that you can boost your ego up by pretending to be superior to newcomers. As SubCore said, you should consider an attitude change, instead of looking for excuses & ways of telling people they're making a fool out of themselves.
You're no-one to judge whether he has to know it or not, his original question was "what is xterminal for?", so you could either answer it with your knowledge or ignore it. By acting like a spoilt brat, you didn't give a positive impression, so either way you lost the game.
