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Sorry, no. The revenue received through older games are tiny in comparison to new games released, and no, aren't being driven by emulation but by older gamers who don't know how to emulate them or want to stay legal. Those who emulate generally won't be interested in buying

Can you please explain this because it makes no sense to me and MS, Sony and Nintendo most certainly do not use any containers (whatever that means) developed by the emulation community in their products.

A few rare emulator authors did get to do some work for real game companies such as Steve Snake whose Genesis emulator was licensed for use in Sega's official Genesis compilations a few years ago.

Wrong. As long as there are old school gamers still around, there would still be a market for old school games. You can't tell me that MAME is responsible for places like Super Potato and other places that specialize in selling classic games. I'd also like to understand how emulating older arcade games pushes people to buy console games.

This argument is the same thing as saying that if it wasn't for BitTorrent, no one would be interested in movies older than those from the 90s, but yet people still know Casablanca somehow, right?

I can agree with you here. It's one of the things that legal means will never be able to do.. releasing every single last game due to copyrights of the original creators (if they can even be tracked down), etc...

Tengen Tetris is still one of my favorite versions of Tetris on any platform.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how much anyone here argues about how these games are or aren't affecting anyone's pocketbook when said companies tell us that they are and have the legal means to enforce their decisions.

F**k em, I have probably every classic game I ever played on NES, SNES, and N64 (at least 500) I could give less thak a flying f**k at a rolling donut about the legality...I play them today and Ill continue to play them till my thumbs fall off.

Zerojay,

I do not have the forum skills to post comments like you did on mine, so I am goin' old school...

1. I am not saying the revenue trumps new games. You have to consider controllers, arcade cabinet business and other third party business (arcade and console based) that feeds from old school game interest. Without the emulators, most of the stuff out their today would not have taken off. MAME fans are everywhere- including the financial and marketing arms of all three big console companies. It inspires.

Would any of the current commercial NeoGeo comps, Metal Slug or KOF series on some current systems be released or popular without MAME? Nobody would know what they are except diehard arcade fans.

2. I know two current emulator legends that I will leave nameless here who are working for both Microsoft and Sony. I do believe the VCS emu for Turbografx on the Wii is the same emulator you can download.

On a tangent, I am surprised there is no Turbgrafx emu on Linux or Mamo- Galaga 90, Blazing Lazers and Raiden are super fine

Yep! Tengen Tetris rocks! The only version better than that IMO is Super Twintris on the Amiga

Perhap instead of container I should have said emulator. I prefer "container" since the emulator approach on consoles is the game rom plus the emulator- that is why the files are way bigger than the actual game roms are.

Yes, absolutely. In fact, probably even more popular since all the people that use MAME generally stay away from ports which are almost always substandard in comparison to the original arcade release.

I don't get what people are complaining about, so Maemo pulled the Emulators I don't blame them someone else can setup a Repo if you want to. Its not that hard or expensive for the hosting. Then you can put anything maemo.org wont allow on repos there. Wait haven't I already been here before oh yeah I hosted my own Maemo Related project site for 2 years.

The reason they are weaker is that the companies usually take non-optimized emulators and port like wild things.

There are a few exceptions which I proudly own:

MetalSlugX for the PS1 has extra features and IMO plays better than the original.

Metal Slug collection on the PS2 and PSP (own them both) seem to play better than "other options". If not better, they are certainly equals. Plus, they have Metal Slug 6- great game and not released- anywhere else.

Nice to know someone else that appreciates Tengen Tetris

I'm someone who used to be big into Mame. I'm not sure where my ROMs are anymore, tho I still know where my Neo Geo ROMs are. It was great reliving some of those arcade classics, tho others require specialized controlers to do correctly.

Yeah, there has been a lot of frustration with how to handle Abandonware, especially when it isn't clear who the rightholders are anymore. Sometimes you get an effort to put them out in another format, but it sometimes ends up only being a temporary fix, as those systems become obsolete and interest in doing it again wanes once more. Emulation seems to be one of the better solutions in my eyes, since it doesn't require a lot of effort from the rightsholders. The question then is about getting compensation.

Course, that's why I think copyright needs to be more limited so that these questions are made much easier. What kind of money can a company expect for a 20 year old video game? Not much, particularly when the value of 5 year old games deteriorate rapidly. As a group of kids were saying in the used PS2 bin over the weekend, "Some of these games should be free. Any more than that is a ripoff."

http://rapidshare.com/files/31380206...maemo3_all.deb

these wallpapers, do they stretch over all the 4 desktops of the n900?

Sorry, I didn't read your post before... I don't think your wallpapers are anything bad for Nintendo, but they're your creation, so I removed them.
The old links don't work anymore.

New links without the classic wallpapers:
http://www.plunder.com/Nokia-N900-Ni...8f239e4729.htm
(short link, same page: http://plunder.com/8f239e4729 )

And sorry again zerojay!

I don't feel that they are either, but it comes down to how I was alerted about this whole situation and I'd rather be safe than sorry at this point.

Not a problem. Thanks.