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archzai	2009-12-05 , 13:35
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Originally Posted by attila77

- color fax functionality

thats hardly a request that the general public deems a priority.
sorry.

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sjgadsby	2009-12-05 , 13:58
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Originally Posted by Jack6428

I expect the new firmware to feature:
- Added portrait mode for browser
- Added portrait mode for sms
- Added portrait mode for pdf
- Added mms
- Added more options for videorecorder
- Fixed noise issue with images
- Increased battery life by 10%
- Updated Ovi Maps to version 3.0

Wow. Brace yourself for disappointment then.

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	Jack6428	2009-12-05 , 14:01
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Why? You work in Nokia on the new firmware? I'm sorry, but what i listed is nothing special, but something the average non-geek user will expect. I'm not a normal user, but i don't request miracles, considering the firmware which the phone is being sold with is roughly already 5 weeks old.

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	Andre Klapper	2009-12-05 , 14:11
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Originally Posted by Relativistic

It would be great if we could get some info from the devs on what is currently being worked on, ETA on next firmware, etc.

New features are definitely nothing that developers are allowed to talk about, that's stuff for the marketing guys.
And Nokia never announces ETAs for firmware updates in advance...

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	Andre Klapper	2009-12-05 , 14:13
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Originally Posted by archzai

Just wondering.

All I see is people telling others to post bug reports. But there are so many reports.

6500 bugs are nothing and quite handable. For example GNOME Bugzilla has more than half a million. :-P

Originally Posted by archzai

Has anyone actually gotten a reply regarding a bug they posted? Or has anyone from the Maemo team actually responded to a bug report saying they will address it? I have this sinking feeling the website is just a giant black hole to keep people quiet while resources are put into Maemo 6

Nope. Mostly it's the Bugsquad and me who are the first folks to take a look at a bug report, but I definitely also see a growing number of Nokians that care. Plus I import useful bugs so Nokians must care about them, but unfortunately there is still too much stuff that happens behind a curtain, yeah, but I see slow but sure improvements.

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	Andre Klapper	2009-12-05 , 14:14
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Originally Posted by Jack6428

Yeah, i mean i doubt they will release it past 24th, because they don't work on X-Mas do they? So it makes more less just 20 days left, but that still is alot of time. I think the new fw should fix alot things, as well as add new ones, right?
I expect the new firmware to feature:
- Added portrait mode for browser
- Added portrait mode for sms
- Added portrait mode for pdf
- Added mms
- Added more options for videorecorder
- Fixed noise issue with images
- Increased battery life by 10%
- Updated Ovi Maps to version 3.0

Heh, I see some disappointments coming up for Jack6428... :-)

EDIT: Darn, sjgadsby wrote that already.

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	Andre Klapper	2009-12-05 , 14:17
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Originally Posted by Jack6428

Why? You work in Nokia on the new firmware? I'm sorry, but what i listed is nothing special, but something the average non-geek user will expect. I'm not a normal user, but i don't request miracles, considering the firmware which the phone is being sold with is roughly already 5 weeks old.

You basically ask for a lot of non-trivial-to-code features.
"Already 5 weeks old" is a bit funny to me. I wonder if you get huge new features every 5 weeks for Microsoft Windows too...
Interesting expectations here, but there is no unlimited manpower, plus also quite some bugs to fix.

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	ewan	2009-12-05 , 14:20
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper

New features are definitely nothing that developers are allowed to talk about, that's stuff for the marketing guys.

Which is sad

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sjgadsby	2009-12-05 , 14:35
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Originally Posted by Jack6428

Why?

Inline below.

Originally Posted by Jack6428

I expect the new firmware to feature:
- Added portrait mode for browser

Announced, so a given.

- Added portrait mode for sms

There's been no indication that Nokia has reversed course to consider a portrait on-screen keyboard necessary. So: very unlikely.

- Added portrait mode for pdf

It's highly unlikely this is a priority item at this time. There are bigger bugs to squash. Also, community software, such as Xournal, can fill in here.

- Added mms

This may be added at some point, but I'd say it's unlikely to happen so soon.

- Added more options for videorecorder

Also unlikely to be a priority.

- Fixed noise issue with images

There was talk of work on various camera improvements at the summit. I wouldn't be surprised by some improvements to the camera, but "fixed" might be a hard target to hit for everyone, especially as the flash hardware simply is what it is.

- Increased battery life by 10%

Power efficiency is likely to see continued improvement. I wouldn't bank on any specific percentage though.

- Updated Ovi Maps to version 3.0

Nokia has repeatedly stated Ovi Maps on Maemo and Ovi Maps on Symbian are two entiely different programs, and the versions and features of each will be increased independantly. Therefore, asking for "version 3.0" on Maemo is meaningless.

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gidoca	2009-12-05 , 14:59
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Originally Posted by Jack6428

- Fixed noise issue with images

Looking at some of the sample images (for instance this one), to me the artefacts from excessive noise reduction actually seem to be more annoying than the noise itself.