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2009-12-16 , 23:21
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#191
Texrat, I thought about that myself. Hardware is tested for 1-3 years, and hardened way faster than my theory lets on. Makes me think it is strategy to protect sales. Makes me think it won't, now that I think of it. But I hold out hope...
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2009-12-17 , 00:32
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#192
Ugh nokia... Learn a thing or two from Apple.

If the hardware supports it (Which it does) then release the freaking update. I don't enjoy going hungry because you didn't want to release the update.

Release the update when you're ready.
 
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2009-12-17 , 15:00
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My question is not if N900 will be upgraded to M6. If Nokia is saying that it can't be done either you people don't buy N900 and get over it or be happy with what you have. Since the beginning it was "hinted" that probably N900 would not support M6 anyway so get over it.

I bought N900 and I am happy with it.

BUT... I would like to know if M6 will be a more a release that will see just incremental updates, instead of revolutionary ones like M5->M6. When M7 comes out would the devices that used M6 be capable of using M7?

If not, the excuse that "we dont know what the future holds and be happy with what you have" doesnt hold anymore. After all, it is marketed as a mobile computer and I can do this with my computers. Also iPhonies/Droidz can do the same...

People will just flock to other platforms if they can get a "new OS" for €9.99.
 
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2009-12-17 , 20:02
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#194
Good point! Even if I had the option to PAY to upgrade I would still be happy. I'm not at all for china needing to mass produce another million units and pump that much death into the air because Nokia wasn't willing to release it to current users.
 
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2009-12-18 , 15:12
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#195
Originally Posted by expresspotato View Post
Ugh nokia... Learn a thing or two from Apple.

If the hardware supports it (Which it does) then release the freaking update. I don't enjoy going hungry because you didn't want to release the update.

Release the update when you're ready.
I'd have to agree, and if the new hardware is basically the same except for multi-touch, maybe a compass, etc... It's pretty easy to retrofit it anyway in the N900 and keep binary compatibility with some little check for the very specific features.

Of course if the CPU jumps to 2Ghz and we get a SLI 3D card things might be too different to consider it ;-)
 
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Originally Posted by R-R View Post
I'd have to agree, and if the new hardware is basically the same except for multi-touch, maybe a compass, etc... It's pretty easy to retrofit it anyway in the N900 and keep binary compatibility with some little check for the very specific features.
Not too sure about that. Might be they want to push some new UI elements that rely on multi-touch... How would you make them run on an N900? Yes, you could always argue that they could check if the hardware's available and then provide either this or that interface/gesture... but that's not what Nokia usually does. They concentrate on one solution and deliver. (I'm not saying this is good. It's just the way it usually is.)

I'm glad this thread exists, though. Now the N900 is out and the first firmware upgrade will soon be released, what else would we have to talk about?
 

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2009-12-19 , 17:35
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Great thread. The bigger problem I foresee with Maemo 6 is not whether we'll be able to run it or not on the N900(we sure will, eventually), rather whether we'll be able to run Maemo 5 software on Maemo 6 unmodified or not. Basically unless Maemo 6 will have a built in Maemo 5 emulator (much like xp support for windows 7), all the hard work of the community will be wiped out as far as Maemo 5 apps concerned: the cycle of porting will be forced to continue.
 
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People will just flock to other platforms if they can get a "new OS" for €9.99.
If enough people ever wake up and realize they're not really getting that, then what?
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Basically unless Maemo 6 will have a built in Maemo 5 emulator (much like xp support for windows 7), all the hard work of the community will be wiped out as far as Maemo 5 apps concerned: the cycle of porting will be forced to continue.
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2009-12-20 , 10:50
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Great thread. The bigger problem I foresee with Maemo 6 is not whether we'll be able to run it or not on the N900(we sure will, eventually), rather whether we'll be able to run Maemo 5 software on Maemo 6 unmodified or not. Basically unless Maemo 6 will have a built in Maemo 5 emulator (much like xp support for windows 7), all the hard work of the community will be wiped out as far as Maemo 5 apps concerned: the cycle of porting will be forced to continue.
This is a totally different question. Feel free opening a new thread to discuss it. fwiw we are saying that Maemo 5 Qt 4.6 apps will run in Maemo 6 and we are discussing with GTK+ and Hildon maintainers how to get their Maemo 5 API ported to Maemo 6. For the rest is mostly about porting bindings, I guess.
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