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Alex Atkin UK is offline Alex Atkin UK
2009-12-24 , 18:31
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Speaking of, have you gotten applications run over SSH to display on the N900?

I know its doable and desktop Linux does it by default. However on the N900 it seems it may be disabled by default as it doesn't work and its hard finding information about how to get it working as hardly anyone seems to use that functionality any more.
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2009-12-24 , 18:51
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK View Post
Speaking of, have you gotten applications run over SSH to display on the N900?

I know its doable and desktop Linux does it by default. However on the N900 it seems it may be disabled by default as it doesn't work and its hard finding information about how to get it working as hardly anyone seems to use that functionality any more.
When you run ssh, run it like "ssh -XY". You may want to throw in a "-C" for compression as well.

You may need to configure something on your server end too, but usually that does the trick (e.g. it works with default Debian lenny).

If it's not on a LAN, it's pretty slow though and VNC would be faster. I have some info about VNC here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba#VNC

The *best* solution would be to use NX as it is much faster (less data transfer). There are some NX packages in extras-devel right now too (see qtnx).

Later,

-Jeff
 

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2009-12-24 , 18:59
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iirc, there are two reasons why xorg shows a lot of ram used.

1. its reported ram includes any ram related to the graphics hardware.

2. xorg, rather then the individual program, manages the graphics of the programs thats running.
 

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Alex Atkin UK is offline Alex Atkin UK
2009-12-24 , 19:16
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Originally Posted by jebba View Post
When you run ssh, run it like "ssh -XY". You may want to throw in a "-C" for compression as well.

You may need to configure something on your server end too, but usually that does the trick (e.g. it works with default Debian lenny).

If it's not on a LAN, it's pretty slow though and VNC would be faster. I have some info about VNC here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba#VNC

The *best* solution would be to use NX as it is much faster (less data transfer). There are some NX packages in extras-devel right now too (see qtnx).

Later,

-Jeff
Thanks, I guess I should have checked the ssh man page but I have been insanely thick lately.

The problem is I have been trying to do it without X forwarding, running the application on the server and telling it to output to the N900. I believe that should be a little faster over the LAN as it takes the encryption out of the picture. However there is not xhost command on the N900 so I can't tell it to allow the host a connection. I was thinking perhaps look for an Debian ARM version, but as I understood it usually its installed along with xorg itself which I do not want to risk breaking.

Its not vitally important, it just could be useful
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Alex Atkin UK is offline Alex Atkin UK
2009-12-26 , 05:15
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KWrite ran beautifully over SSH, until I tried to type. I guess I hit the Nokia "lets fsck up the keyboard focus" issue. Its destroyed one of the big reasons I wanted the N900 in the first place, for X forwarding desktop apps.
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go1dfish is offline go1dfish
2009-12-26 , 05:51
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK View Post
KWrite ran beautifully over SSH, until I tried to type. I guess I hit the Nokia "lets fsck up the keyboard focus" issue. Its destroyed one of the big reasons I wanted the N900 in the first place, for X forwarding desktop apps.
easy-debian-chroot has a workaround for this issue now. So you can at least X11 forward properly from LXDE for now.
 
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2010-06-21 , 11:15
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If I somehow manage to turn Hildon-desktop off as startup, what will I see? Will I be able to run X Terminal, at least (to turn Hildon back on with help of vi)?

P.S. You just said X.org provides GUI. So I can have GUI without Hildon-desktop, cannot I?
 
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2010-06-21 , 11:24
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK View Post
Its sad, but reading this brought a smile to my face.

The idea of the horror on the faces of everyone who read this post.

Its kinda like going to a Windows forum and saying "you know explorer.exe is eating a lot of RAM, can I just delete it?". Not exactly the same thing (Windows would be much more easily recoverable than the N900) but still, its the kind of thing where everyone in the room in tandem goes "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" at the same time.

I did check though out of curiosity, if you had killed xorg it simply triggered a shutdown and safe reboot. Probably the safest course of action if it crashed for some reason. Now deleting it on the other hand, well I guess it would trigger the same but it would be an infinite reboot cycle.
Acctually you would be more screwed if you deleted Explorer.exe than Xorg. Though just closing them would render the same thing.. they restart.
 
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2010-08-21 , 17:14
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hay brother plz help me my n900 using 100% cpu usage...plz help and 97% xorg.............plz help my conversations tool take very long time to open...plz i need u r help...
 
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2010-08-21 , 17:19
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plz some one help me.................
 
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