jwi | # 31 | 2009-12-27, 22:52 | Report

It's very hard to understand, why someone would hate the idea getting wrt to maemo. Its cool technology for hacking for example nice looking easy use front ends for web servives etc. Its cool that we have many choices. We all dont want to write assembler to get some simple things done... Its not good for every use, but when its used correctly, its nice technology.

Bundyo | # 32 | 2009-12-28, 00:17 | Report

Just to clarify - I'm not against, just pointing some facts.

Flandry | # 33 | 2009-12-28, 01:12 | Report

I explained it clearly and in full detail already, but it comes down to this: it's not optional, and it will reduce battery life...while giving no unique benefit. That is more than enough reason for me to be opposed.

Make it entirely optional and i have no objections.

Also, nice hyperbole with the assembler comment.

j.s | # 34 | 2009-12-28, 01:28 | Report

Well, when I look at the dependencies for mplayer, I see a very long list of libraries with no easy way to compare the versions to the exiting libraries on the device. File names did not seem to be related.

Bundyo | # 35 | 2009-12-28, 05:55 | Report

It is optional to reduce battery life... - WRT will be integrated in Maemo 6, but the choice to use it is entirely your own.

And it is completely optional in Maemo 5.

qgil | # 36 | 2009-12-28, 08:06 | Report

The main benefit of the Web Runtime is fast development with a programming language widely known. This has the potential of producing plenty more apps with a lower cost.

jwi | # 37 | 2009-12-28, 08:19 | Report

One thing that I don't understand is that how could wrt reduce battery life if it's not used? Of course it does, when you run apps on it, but you don't have to do that.

If we get good emulator for wrt for maemo and at least same features that it has in Symbian, im gonna bed very exited. I have tested Symbian it worked very well. (I did app which used Google maps and GPS).

voracity | # 38 | 2009-12-28, 11:41 | Report

I don't think Flandry is being straightforward with his concerns. I doubt he is worried about WRT affecting battery life. Even if it was shown that WRT had a positive effect on battery life, he would still be unhappy with WRT. My guess is that he is worried that the nature and philosophy of the phone will shift from a Linux hacker & power user device, to a treat-the-user-like-a-baby iPhone-clone.

I don't share those concerns and neither would the many, many people whose lives could be improved (or at least, made a little more fun) by using a device with those abilities out-of-the-box.

That's not to say I don't have my concerns. I am quite disappointed to see that WRT will use webkit rather than gecko (on philosophical grounds). So, out of curiosity, why was webkit chosen?

Bundyo | # 39 | 2009-12-28, 13:08 | Report

At least for full compatibility with S60.

Flandry | # 40 | 2009-12-28, 14:39 | Report

I think we may be off on different tangents here but you can see python-related dependencies very clearly, which was what i was talking about.

Getting to the root of that particu.ar issue (being able to tell which apps use the different interpreters and runtime libraries) I would be in favor of a "Language" tag requirement in maemo packages that would let you tell at a glance whether an app is based on python, javascript, C, etc..

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