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DaveQB is offline DaveQB
2010-01-03 , 13:50
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DrWilken
No problems.

I have noticed with the ssh server that I can't login remotely [and maybe locally but can't be tested] until I open a login shell.

Initially I thought it to be a PITA, but I guess its a nice safety feature, if it is indeed such.

Anyone else with this or is it something unique to mine?
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2010-01-03 , 13:58
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I haven't noticed this (but I disabled the ssh server so I always open a login shell to start ssh before using it anyways)...
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2010-01-03 , 14:13
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Originally Posted by DrWilken View Post
I haven't noticed this (but I disabled the ssh server so I always open a login shell to start ssh before using it anyways)...
Cool. I am kinda liking this "feature"
 
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2010-01-03 , 14:18
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Originally Posted by DaveQB View Post
Cool. I am kinda liking this "feature"
Yeah, it actually makes sense...
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bbhl is offline bbhl
2010-01-03 , 21:12
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DrWilken, thanx for pointing to the update-rc.d...
The "update-rc.d -f ssh remove" does the job and sshd does not come up after restart or whatsoever... Now it is only by demand through the "/etc/init.d/ssh start|stop"... At least it works for me....
 
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2010-01-03 , 21:20
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Glad I helped out...
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2010-01-03 , 23:09
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Originally Posted by bbhl View Post
DrWilken, thanx for pointing to the update-rc.d...
The "update-rc.d -f ssh remove" does the job and sshd does not come up after restart or whatsoever... Now it is only by demand through the "/etc/init.d/ssh start|stop"... At least it works for me....
I thought upstart was meant to be SysV compatible. I was surprised Debians update-rc.d script was not working when reading this thread.

Good work DrWilken
 
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2010-01-04 , 16:26
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The other thing I'm thinking about... is there any way to create a shortcut to start/stop ssh as root through the main menu?
Just like one I have for VNC under the user:

Nokia-N900-42-11:/usr/share/applications/hildon# cat x11vnc.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=0.93
Type=Application
Name=x11vnc
Exec=/usr/bin/x11vnc
Icon=control_device_setup
X-Window-Icon=control_device_setup
X-Window-Icon-Dimmed=control_device_setup
Nokia-N900-42-11:/usr/share/applications/hildon#

Or may be there is a way to start ssh under the user?
Most probably this may work: http://svashishtha.wordpress.com/200...ost-on-ubuntu/.
Well.. the only thing that I did forget about is that if there is no sshd up, it won't be possible to do a ssh root@localhost to start up sshd...
sshd stopping does work through this WA.
Last edited by bbhl; 2010-01-04 at 18:39.
 
adrianp is offline adrianp
2010-01-04 , 20:05
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Originally Posted by DaveQB View Post
I thought upstart was meant to be SysV compatible. I was surprised Debians update-rc.d script was not working when reading this thread.
There is the following package in Ubuntu/Debian for this :-
Code:
upstart-compat-sysv - compatibility for System-V-like init
I suspect the idea is to move away from sys-v and just use upstart combined with if-up/down.d for network scripts. Bit confusing for "old-timers" like myself but I'm gradually getting the hang if it.
 
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2010-01-04 , 23:37
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Originally Posted by bbhl View Post
The other thing I'm thinking about... is there any way to create a shortcut to start/stop ssh as root through the main menu?
Just like one I have for VNC under the user:

Nokia-N900-42-11:/usr/share/applications/hildon# cat x11vnc.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=0.93
Type=Application
Name=x11vnc
Exec=/usr/bin/x11vnc
Icon=control_device_setup
X-Window-Icon=control_device_setup
X-Window-Icon-Dimmed=control_device_setup
Nokia-N900-42-11:/usr/share/applications/hildon#

Or may be there is a way to start ssh under the user?
Most probably this may work: http://svashishtha.wordpress.com/200...ost-on-ubuntu/.
Well.. the only thing that I did forget about is that if there is no sshd up, it won't be possible to do a ssh root@localhost to start up sshd...
sshd stopping does work through this WA.

As root:
Code:
visudo
O
user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/x11vnc
[ESC]
:x
Now change the the exec line to:

Code:
Exec=/usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/x11vnc
 

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