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mikkov is offline mikkov
2010-01-21 , 01:06
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#111
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
I don't think it is needed. I never enabled extras-testing and it worked.

And that are separate repositories.
Because extras-devel is broken for HAM, nothing in there shows up. If you enable extras-testing you will get more apps until extras-devel is fixed. Wasn't more apps what you wanted for?
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:09
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#112
Originally Posted by ndi View Post
I think he means other people are affected even if they didn't hit update manually, since it does it by itself.

And, most likely because the AM never uses apt-get but uses the apt libraries and rewrote some of the code - code that is different enough to crash - maybe some off GET request or some parameters like including the software version.
You puzzle me too - the text which I posted was from browser and has nothing with apt-get.

Moreover, I just used

wget ...(3rd file URL)...

And looked into Release file - it is WRONG.
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:11
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#113
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
You puzzled me.

How the freq of AM refreshing have deal with it? It is matter of time or page configuration (Time-To-Live).

HAM won't show the apps until it downloads (refreshesh) new (fixed) files from repositories. Since HAM downloads Relese and other files only once a day it could take one day until fix is visible to users
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:11
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#114
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
You puzzle me too - the text which I posted was from browser and has nothing with apt-get.
apt-get downloads the same file....
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:12
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#115
Originally Posted by mikkov View Post
Because extras-devel is broken for HAM, nothing in there shows up. If you enable extras-testing you will get more apps until extras-devel is fixed. Wasn't more apps what you wanted for?
Actually, I have two issues here now:

1. What is going on (I may wait until it is fixed if somebody works on it).

2. I need some packages from extras-devel, and I can get it via apt-get. And my issue (2) is - why I can get it via apt-get? (
gstreamer0.10-mkv)
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:13
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#116
Originally Posted by mikkov View Post
apt-get downloads the same file....
How it gets the yesterday night submission which never exists before yesterday? (Please take into account that issue is at least a couple of days).
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:14
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#117
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
Actually, I have two issues here now:

1. What is going on (I may wait until it is fixed if somebody works on it).
Extras-devel is broken (I reported it, hopefully it's fixed tomorrow)
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:16
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#118
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
How it gets the yesterday night submission which never exists before yesterday? (Please take into account that issue is at least a couple of days).
I have no idea what you mean
 
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2010-01-21 , 01:17
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#119
apt-get update's the repository when you tell it to. AM gets it once a day. I'm not sure if refreshing in HAM actually "refreshes" the files.

Egoshin: apt-cache search gstreamer

Anything that shows up should be installable.

ETA: I guess unless they are from extras-devel.. which mikkov says is broken .
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2010-01-21 , 01:18
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#120
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
You puzzle me too - the text which I posted was from browser and has nothing with apt-get.

Moreover, I just used

wget ...(3rd file URL)...

And looked into Release file - it is WRONG.
I don't know why, but that was funny. Puzzled 2 - the sequel. (it's 3:15 AM here in Romania. And I work tomorrow).

Precisely. Browser gets it wrong, HAM gets it wrong, but apparently apt-get gets it right.

It stands to reason that since HAM fails, it's wrong. It also stands to reason that apt-get gets it right, so I'm guessing that something HAM does trigger the bug.

Beyond this point, I simply speculated that HAM adds something or removes something from the request that breaks the server. Furthermore, since it's not identical, it's safe to assume HAM is not a front end for apt-get, but simply uses apt libraries and has its own GET method.

It's also possible that though different both HAM and apt-get issue valid if different requests but the US server cored/is bad/does localized processing if it's unique.
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