Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*) - Page 15 - maemo.org

bunanson | # 141 | 2010-01-21, 14:55 | Report

Originally Posted by franchg View Post

...The best selling worldwide smartphone of 2009 was the nokia 5800 followed by the n97. The N900 has sold way less.

Up till 11/2009, sale figure of smartphone here, http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...figures_no.php, and here, http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...BQ&safe=active

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johnel | # 142 | 2010-01-21, 14:55 | Report

I've just seen this:http://europe.nokia.com/support/prod...d#/nokia-n900/

If you look at bottom of page you see this: "*For your Nokia N900 use Mass storage mode."

I'm desperate to try it but I am at work!

If someone can confirm this works I would be eternally grateful!

If this enables the free version then Nokia management are stupidier than I thought!

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fjonga | # 143 | 2010-01-21, 14:59 | Report

Again the Interwebs are full of mixed information; Endgadget says it's not on the roadmap and I've found at least 2 papers, 1 saying it's coming, 1 saying it's an open question (marketing) but under development already (developer comment). Who knows.

I didn't get N900 for its navigation features. That job is reserved for my Navigon device.

... But I must say, the ability to use the maps without datalink is stellar! I was so frustrated so many times with my iPhone and google maps due to the need of stable datalink. Though as I understand, this feature has been in the Ovi maps from the start.

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volt | # 144 | 2010-01-21, 15:06 | Report

Originally Posted by johnel View Post

If you look at bottom of page you see this: "*For your Nokia N900 use Mass storage mode."

I'm desperate to try it but I am at work!

If someone can confirm this works I would be eternally grateful!

If this enables the free version then Nokia management are stupidier than I thought!

Same page says "You're good to go - Your mobile has Nokia Maps preinstalled." So, what do you expect from this page?

I am trying it out anyway. The download installed Nokia "PC Connectivity Solution" and then Nokia Map Loader.

Starting the Map Loader according to instructions, gave the current message: "You have connected at least one phone in mass storage mode. Reconnect your phone and select PC Suite mode."

Doesn't match the instructions.

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ddalex | # 145 | 2010-01-21, 15:08 | Report

5800 owner here; I just updated the firmware to get the new Maps 3.0 application w/ free goodies. let me say i'm at least very disappointed.

- After update, you have to agree that the phone will automatically and without warning send updates to Nokia. There is no other way to go through the screen, not any "Decline" button. Your usage of the device means that you agree to the terms; if you don't, throw away the device.
I wonder who was the genius that thought about this, I wonder if this forceful pushing of new terms is legal (I own the device, they want to make me belive I'm just "licensing" the device from them ?)

- The phone automatically sends SMSes to "My Nokia" to automatically subscribe you to the service. No way to stop them, it doesn't request any permission; the messages are sent prior to acceptance of terms, just after boot.

- Phone regularely crashes now in the Maps application. There is no "Free" option, when the Maps app manage to no crash you're bombarded with the prompt to buy the premium navigation content.

I didn't check any other app yet, but you can bet I'm not gonna buy Nokia again; all these seems like desperate moves from a desperate company.

I don't want my phone to spy on me, I don't want it to make automatic calls to its manufacturer, I don't need free navigation with all these hurdles when cheap programs for other problems solve this problem without all these headaches !

Motorola, Google, even the Jesus phone seem now better option !

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johnel | # 146 | 2010-01-21, 15:10 | Report

Originally Posted by volt View Post

Same page says "You're good to go - Your mobile has Nokia Maps preinstalled." So, what do you expect from this page?

Does it just update existing maps and/or does it include the now free "premium" content?

volt | # 147 | 2010-01-21, 15:16 | Report

"I don't want my phone to spy on me" ... .... "Google" ... ... ...

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volt | # 148 | 2010-01-21, 15:18 | Report

Originally Posted by johnel View Post

Does it just update existing maps and/or does it include the now free "premium" content?

Actually I haven't got it working quite yet.
The installation process said Nokia PC Suite was required, then it installed that previously mentioned thing. Trying to install PC Suite manually to see if that makes anything any different.

Nah, I can't get this program talking to the phone. The instructions on the download page mismatches the instructions from the program, mass storage mode vs pc suite mode.

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fred123 | # 149 | 2010-01-21, 15:20 | Report

There is an update to a blog entry
http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/...e-devices.html

quoting an email from nokia

Originally Posted by

UPDATE: As of last night when I composed this post, I had email confirmation from Nokia that the N97 would *not* be covered initially, but ‘more devices will be added to the list soon’. Apparently, there’s a (somewhat) valid reason the N97 is not covered (that I was not given when I asked specifically about the device), ‘In particular, the Nokia N97 isn’t supported because the Maps 3.3 installer needs (in the order of) 20MB free disk space on C: and this would present problems for many users – a workaround is apparently coming in a week or so, possibly in the form of building Maps 3.3 into the firmware itself, eliminating the need for a separate download

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so there will be other devices added to the list, hopefully n900 will follow.

smarsh | # 150 | 2010-01-21, 15:23 | Report

Worth merging this with the other related thread...?

AFAICT, I have turn by turn directions in Ovi Maps 1.0 for Maemo (which as has already been pointed out elsewhere is not related in number to Ovi Maps 3.0 for Symbian or whatever it is). Just tried it and it works for an upcoming trip from Ottawa to Orlando. And that's a long way...

I have Map loader, version 1.4.2 of multimedia transfer and it's working. And if I ask Maps 1.0 on my N900 to plan a route on my downloaded maps it does. Offline. I can live without some idiotic mumblings form the device telling me when to turn, I've managed fine with my N810 and the rather mewling flite speech stuff for years. ANd the functionality on the N900 is far beyond the N810s for navigation (which I used Maemo Mapper on).

Actually, deliriously happy with the navigation capabilities of my device. Free maps, free app, who gives a monkey's if it doesn't speak to me... I don't...

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