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    colnago | # 101 | 2010-01-20, 21:26 | Report

    Originally Posted by depu View Post
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    About the Kansas thing, i wouldnt think much of it, i live on the east coast and it shows the same for me. ...
    I would think much of my traffic going halfway accross the country for its gateway or worse yet, a proxy...especially when dealing with traffic that is sensitive to delay (VoIP, streaming video).

    For T-Mo, it seems like the Internet2 APN routes "some peoples'" traffic thru the midwest, where the epc APN has it routing closer to the user's actual location (at least per speedtest.net).

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    depu | # 102 | 2010-01-20, 23:10 | Report

    Originally Posted by colnago View Post
    I would think much of my traffic going halfway accross the country for its gateway or worse yet, a proxy...especially when dealing with traffic that is sensitive to delay (VoIP, streaming video).

    For T-Mo, it seems like the Internet2 APN routes "some peoples'" traffic thru the midwest, where the epc APN has it routing closer to the user's actual location (at least per speedtest.net).
    I meant w.r.t him noting the OP's proxy is from Kansas even though he is in Reno.

    I too have the internet2 APN on my n900, will checkout what epc gives me.

    Edit: Looks it it brings the proxy closer to me, but no impact on ping latency as such 200ms or up/download speeds.

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    Last edited by depu; 2010-01-20 at 23:17. Reason: updated info about epc

     
    jerryfreak | # 103 | 2010-01-26, 05:33 | Report

    went to reno today, only trying near 395. after about a dozen tries i actually got an at&t 3G connection to show up, but when i selected it i got a 'no access' message. fwiw i was at the light on mill st near 395 in front of b of a. by the time i tried to connect, we were moving northbound on 395, who knows if i could have connected had i stayed in place

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    jimp | # 104 | 2010-01-27, 22:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by jerryfreak View Post
    ...i actually got an at&t 3G connection to show up, but when i selected it i got a 'no access' message. ...who knows if i could have connected had i stayed in place
    I really doubt it. I can pull up "2G AT&T" (works) and "3G AT&T" everytime I scan for service. The "3G AT&T" always says "No access." I don't even think it is trying, actually. If I have the phone near speakers, the "2G AT&T" makes connection noise, but "3G AT&T" is dead silent. I'm fairly sure my old 3G phone made noise next to speakers, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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    colnago | # 105 | 2010-01-27, 22:40 | Report

    Originally Posted by depu View Post
    I meant w.r.t him noting the OP's proxy is from Kansas even though he is in Reno.

    I too have the internet2 APN on my n900, will checkout what epc gives me.

    Edit: Looks it it brings the proxy closer to me, but no impact on ping latency as such 200ms or up/download speeds.
    Fair enough, but it is not recommended to run VoIP on circuits with latency over 150ms as QoS issues arise.

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    Konceptz | # 106 | 2010-01-27, 22:42 | Report

    Originally Posted by
    Hlorri@howardforums

    He may still have been roaming on T-Mobile, without knowing.

    T-Mobile bought VoiceStream, which shared GSM network with Cingular at some point. Once Cingular acquired AT&T (blue), the deal was that VoiceStream would purchase that network outright, whereas Cingular would adopt the GSM network from AT&T Wireless Services. Long sordid history, but he bottom line is that with an AT&T (formerly Cingular) SIM, the T-Mobile network will often (and especially on Nokia phones) show as "AT&T".
    Though it's certainly not like the 850/1900 international N95 fun we all had.

    -Edit, Hlorri signed up and posted. Thanks

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    Last edited by Konceptz; 2010-01-27 at 22:48.

     
    hectorh82 | # 107 | 2010-01-28, 16:23 | Report

    ok this is whats going on, the n900 picks up tmobiles 3g, you can use up to 25mb's of their 3g before at&t gets mad and sends you a emil and text haha.. and thats per bill cycle.. now i did my research and at&t can not charge you due to the roaming agreement. they just prefer you not use it cause that means they have to pay out of pocket.. the only end result is that they cancel your account or line free of charge (no deactivation fee).

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    Last edited by hectorh82; 2010-01-28 at 16:32.

     
    jimp | # 108 | 2010-01-29, 22:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by hectorh82 View Post
    ok this is whats going on, the n900 picks up tmobiles 3g, you can use up to 25mb's of their 3g before at&t gets mad and sends you a emil and text haha.. and thats per bill cycle.. now i did my research and at&t can not charge you due to the roaming agreement. they just prefer you not use it cause that means they have to pay out of pocket.. the only end result is that they cancel your account or line free of charge (no deactivation fee).
    I just checked, and I have T-mobile 3G coverage in my area (100% positive). How come I can see "3G AT&T" but it will not connect to it? Additionally, I see nothing about T-mobile 3G. I'd love to use the 25MB / mo, no problem as I am almost always using WiFi. I just don't like missing calls when my n900 is connected via EDGE and calls cannot get through! Is there anything I can do to get the n900 to "roam" on the T-mobile 3G network?

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    bugelrex | # 109 | 2010-01-29, 22:30 | Report

    Originally Posted by jimp View Post
    I just don't like missing calls when my n900 is connected via EDGE and calls cannot get through!
    Mmmm the data should suspend and let the call through. Does it happen all the time? I'm on at&t with Edge and I've never experienced this..

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    jimp | # 110 | 2010-01-29, 22:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
    Mmmm the data should suspend and let the call through. Does it happen all the time? I'm on at&t with Edge and I've never experienced this..
    Up until you just asked, I have never directly tested it. I always based it on receiving text messages where the sender said "I just tried to call you..." and I noticed my phone was syncing my large email accounts.

    So to reach a more definitive conclusion, I ran speakeasy.net's speed test and tried calling my own phone while it ran. Five (5) times I was connected to voicemail after just 1 ring. Once the test was completely done, my 6th call got through and the phone rang.

    I would say it is consistent, reproducible, and it only happens when a data connection is open for a lengthy (5+ sec) amount of time (not just when the "Data Connection" icon is visible). I think it is based on actual data flow, not just an established connection.

    I also tested a SSH session. It could be interrupted, but only if I was just setting at the command prompt. Having a program with consistent terminal data flow, i.e. "top", would block calls from getting through.

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