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    Catacylsm | # 631 | 2010-01-30, 22:43 | Report

    i definatelyagree blue, a decent sat nav app would be great along with nokias personal support of the device! i would like to see flash ten support on the device (i think flash ten alpha for linus was released) that way our hardware would go even further with flash content! lol

    this things a great entertainment platform

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    attila77 | # 632 | 2010-01-30, 22:49 | Report

    Originally Posted by nicola.mfb View Post
    But it seems that ovi maps 3, for example, is scheduled for harmattan only, that's the only reason of my interest in this thread!
    That's exactly what I'm saying - you ask for one thing assuming that it ensures another. Maemo 5 might as well run Harmattan applications at some point. Harmattan itself might not run well on the N900 for whatever reason (multitouch? memory? DRM?). I don't (necessarily) want Maemo 6. I want next generation apps on the N900 all right, but I leave to Nokia to decide whether Maemo 6 or a Qt-steroidized Maemo 5 is better suited for that - I simply do not have the inside knowledge to judge that choice at this point.

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    cheve | # 633 | 2010-01-30, 22:54 | Report

    Any device that ever got made by any company is going to be ignored by its maker -- eventually. So why sweat it??? You have the device now, if the spec meet your needs or you are able to tolerate the features(ie. those that are important to you) that are missing now; then enjoy the unit to the fullness. If it is not your cup of tea, then go ahead and sell it - chalk up the experiences as a lesson learnt.

    Cheers,

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    YoDude | # 634 | 2010-01-30, 23:16 | Report

    This issue has picked up steam because of one thing... "Free Maps"...

    That's it... If that announcement wasn't made or if the majority of those that are crying now were simply given free navigation, (or any freakin' navigation for that matter) we wouldn't see as much turmoil. Premature demands for statements regarding backward compatibility would not be as loud.

    Many users may believe that they are stuck with what they now have and that the current OVI maps application on their N900's, as well as other OVI products like OVI Suite will not see any more improvements. Regardless of turn-by-turn navigation, things like not being able to save locations and the absence of an on screen keyboard makes the N900 version more like Cripple or Demo-ware. Certainly not a finished product.

    For this I blame Nokia and not Maemo. In fact I blame Nokia for the whole OVI debacle with regard to Maemo. It's as if one side of their house has no idea about what the other side does. Or worse, someone like "Joe Isuzu" is running the marketing campaigns.

    If the purpose of this was just to be able to say "Yup, the N900 has maps." then they could have saved us all a lot of space by just pointing to a preinstalled, JPG image of a map of the world or suttin' instead.
    ... it would be about as useful.

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    As someone said earlier, "How do we know M6 doesn't suck?"

    Perhaps things like OVI and increased contributions from commercial developers will be better on Harmattan because areas of M6 will be less open to us...

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    blue_led | # 635 | 2010-01-30, 23:19 | Report

    Originally Posted by Catacylsm View Post
    i definatelyagree blue, a decent sat nav app would be great along with nokias personal support of the device! i would like to see flash ten support on the device (i think flash ten alpha for linus was released) that way our hardware would go even further with flash content! lol

    this things a great entertainment platform
    firefox mobile for n900 with flash addon is ok. it work.

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    Catacylsm | # 636 | 2010-01-31, 00:05 | Report

    Oh i agree, im running flash content flawlessly, but flash 10 (on net tops is allowing HD video playback from a once stuttery enviroment.)

    The performance gain is pretty massive.

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    johnel | # 637 | 2010-01-31, 12:23 | Report

    http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoSecurity

    This is some scary sh**!

    If Maemo 6 includes this "security framework" then I am keeping my n900 the way it is!

    Originally Posted by
    What is "Open Mode" and can it be revoked remotely?

    "Open" mode is when an unsigned kernel has been booted. Disabling it remotely would, presumably, require a change to the bootloader. See slide #??? --Jaffa 11:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

    Can network operators restrict you switching to Open mode?

    Like if a device is sim-locked to a particular network, does the device get locked down in closed DRM mode only too? Can you always switch to open mode?

    Elena Reshetova: If the device is SIM-locked, operator can restrict you to the usage of one particular kernel (slide 5), for example the one, which was shipped with a device. However, it is up to you to decide to buy the device from the operator or form the Nokia store.
    I've changed my mind - I don't want Maemo 6 on my n900!

    Maybe Mer is the way forward.

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    fred123 | # 638 | 2010-01-31, 12:28 | Report

    Originally Posted by
    Elena Reshetova: If the device is SIM-locked, operator can restrict you to the usage of one particular kernel (slide 5), for example the one, which was shipped with a device
    Would this let an operator control what applications coulld/could not be installed on the device?

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    jsa | # 639 | 2010-01-31, 12:52 | Report

    Originally Posted by johnel View Post
    http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoSecurity

    This is some scary sh**!

    If Maemo 6 includes this "security framework" then I am keeping my n900 the way it is!

    I've changed my mind - I don't want Maemo 6 on my n900!

    Maybe Mer is the way forward.
    Out of curiosity, why? You can buy always buy it unlocked. The "open mode" will be available at least on unlocked phones and as far as I understood it, it's pretty much like what you get with Maemo 5 now.

    It's up to each one to decide whether they think that's worth having and they do have the choice. If Nokia wants to take this mainstream they have to woo operators(possibility to sim lock) and they have to woo companies(possibility to use DRM).

    I have a bad feeling this thread is about to derail though, which is not what I intended with my original question.

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    ajflex | # 640 | 2010-01-31, 13:10 | Report

    i want maemo 6 and its full state on nokia n900 why maemo 5 will always be incomplete maemo 6 supports landscape and portrait mode and much more goodie if i know that i would bought a incomplete device i would supported $700 us is alot of money to support something which is incomplete
    if nokia n900 dont put maemo6 on the n900 they will be lose one of their biggest i from nokia 6230 6680 6681 3230 n91 n93 n73 n93i n800 n96 n95 n85 n86 n97 and currently n900 and nokia 2680 i love nokia phones that alot of support please nokia give us maemo 6 and adobe 10.1 and all the goodies that comeswith it, which is more production ready thank

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