silvermountain | # 21 | 2010-02-15, 20:04 | Report

Darn, was trying to see some silver lining here

Texrat | # 22 | 2010-02-15, 20:23 | Report

That actually helps one of my projects though (maemo user experience framework). I just need to abstact it up a level... rename it...

spoonbuddy | # 23 | 2010-02-15, 20:31 | Report

I have just gone through the registration process on Meego and I felt as though I was in the wrong place not being an experienced developer. I hope there is room for everybody else as although a minority of Meamo members just want to whinge there is a lot of happy banter.

RenegadeFanboy | # 24 | 2010-02-15, 20:39 | Report

I think one of the clear values of maemo is that there is end user focus here. It could be improved - as the N900 experience has shown - but the meego site looks like maemo.org some years ago:
every user is expected to be a power user/community champion/developer.

ezcola | # 25 | 2010-02-15, 20:57 | Report

Two things that comes to mind (with truckload of others) are:

- .DEB -packaging

- Forum user history/ statistics/ karma/ etc.
...the parts of forum user history that would be useful indicators for other users. Those should/should be moved/converted to MeeGo.com forum from both maemo.org AND moblin.org. I think this would make the getting to know the other community easier for both members.

Edit: ...ok since, Moblin seems to not have forum the second part should be even easier to implement

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RenegadeFanboy | # 26 | 2010-02-15, 20:59 | Report

No. 11 (lost count): I would like to keep the maemo 5 multitasking screen (UI).

I don't like the symbian/android style, for me this is clear value from maemo 5.

ezcola | # 27 | 2010-02-15, 21:07 | Report

...this might very well be reality since from the Symbian^3 promo videos it seems like Symbian is adopting the task handling/multitasking screen almost 1:1 from Maemo5.

sarahn | # 28 | 2010-02-15, 21:16 | Report

+1 for community and for arm. Maemo 5 multitasking + mutlitasking GUI is also a win.

Jaffa | # 29 | 2010-02-15, 21:21 | Report

The Maemo community is the single biggest asset, but I don't view MeeGo as a marriage (imagining merging two existing communities was too hard, and lead to feelings of hurt that Moblin seemed to be providing the technology and Maemo the consumer hardware, Qt-based UI and - probably - developer tooling).

This isn't a marriage, it's a child. It's a new platform and a new community - but the Maemo community seems to have far more power and cohesiveness than the Moblin community, so how do we bring that 5-year old knowledge to MeeGo? Now, I think trying to shove the Moblin folk and the Maemo folks together under meego.com would be a mistake. However, the next council (of which I hope to be part), will have a lot of work to do:

• Should MeeGo have a community governance structure alongside its technical one?
• Will the technology of MeeGo provide a realistic upgrade path for Maemo devices shipped without MeeGo (e.g. N8x0 and N900, even 770). If not, what happens with maemo.org? Will Nokia still pay the bills? Many questions and issues here!
• The maemo.org paid contributors are having their contracts continued, what role can we help them have?
• Who do we need to work with in the Moblin community to bring the constructive elements there over to meego.com?
• What happens with the summit? What happens to key Nokia-based members of the community like Quim? Is/was there an Intel equivalent?
• If there're company app stores like Ovi and AppUpSM, what about Extras? How does the MeeGo community do QA across multiple devices if we/they continue to have community (yum) repositories?

As a developer, I'm not too worried. Yes, it's RPM rather than deb, but Qt Creator, MADDE and the resulting Maemo 6 SDK were game changers anyway. But it's the community that's the real question, and successfully transitioning us without losing too much.

zerojay | # 30 | 2010-02-15, 21:26 | Report

I'm not so sure how to see it any other way, honestly. Feels like all our stuff is being dumped for whatever the Intel guys feel is best and I want so badly to be wrong and to think that there was a point to everything we've done here. Instead, it feels like the towel is being thrown in.

We don't even know if they have plans to keep Council around or anything else at this point.

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