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2010-02-19 , 02:41
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Dunno how many instructions per cycle Snapdragon executes, but Cortex A8 does have two pipelines, so it can execute two instructions per cycle. If Snapdragon has only one pipeline, then it takes 1.2GHz Snapdragon to match 600MHz Cortex A8.

Just to say that the MHz alone doesn't matter... As you should remember when Pentium4 came out...

EDIT: Did more digging and it seem the Snapdragon "Scorpion" core is indeed dual-issue, thus equivalent to TI OMAP3430 (Cortex A8) Therefore in theory they should perform about the same level at same clock speed. (That is CPU only, the other aspects, DSP and GPU, is a whole different story.)

Some info here:
http://www.insidedsp.com/tabid/64/ar...pion-Core.aspx
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2010-02-19 , 02:51
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Originally Posted by DarkPand0r View Post
Just read a recent post saying that Qualcomm are supplying Nokia with the SnapDragon CPU for an undisclosed Symbian phone, due for release end of 2010.



With the success of Maemo as an OS (not from a selling point of view.......) its clear that it has the potential to be one of the frontrunners as far as Mobile operating systems go. I love Symbian more than most but after using both for a good amount of time I really think concentration should be aimed towards getting a high end MeeGo device out that actually hits the mass market.

What do you guys think to this news?
Great news!
 
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2010-02-19 , 03:15
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What about Meego phone with a Tegra or TEGRA 2 chipset? Now that would be ***** awesome!
 
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2010-02-19 , 03:27
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Originally Posted by mcdull View Post
Have used S60 1st,2nd,3rd and 5th, Symbian has been working great for me as a Smartphone and more, function-wise it does everthing other new platform are doing if not more, just its UI is showing its age, that's why Nokia has been working on it and is giving us the Symbian^3 and more.
I've been an S60 user for a fair amount of time; Nokia 6600, Nokia N80, Nokia N81, Samsung i8510 So I've had a fair amount of experience with the Symbian S60 OS. I've also had a fair amount of time with the rest of the phones on the market (spent a year as a rep for LG, so I got to see EVERYTHING pretty well).

My problem isn't that SnapDragon is the biggest and best, Personally I agree with most of the posters here that say its not really needed on a phone and the N900's set up is more than enough for a very performance happy phone. But when it comes to it, I still don't see why Nokia are sticking with Symbian, I seriously feel that it just doesn't hold up with most of the market currently.

The problems with Symbian go further than just cosmetically poor, they have proved in recent years that they cannot fix the stability problems (the N97 became the most traded in phone of 2009), and generally S60v5 feels more like a poorly implemented port than a new OS.
 
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2010-02-19 , 05:17
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I assume a lot of you don´t know about Symbian^3 and Symbian^4?

Symbian^3 (showed at MWC) added a bunch of new features, including HDMI support, a new 2D and 3D graphics architecture (that allows to 3D accelerate the UI) and Symbian^4, due to the end of the year or so, will need a whole new UI on top of that. Don´t forget that, consumer-feature-wise. Symbian is ahead of Maemo... with a Snapdragon, it will be a tempting mobile. Probably their new Symbian flagship.
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2010-02-19 , 05:52
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i think everybody should focus on improving batteries now than implementing powerful processors. the current gadgets sucks energy from the batteries like there's no tomorrow because everybody wants a powerful device that can almost do everything while the battery can't handle those for a long time...

back on the topic. arm cortex like the one used for n900 looks way better. 400mhz less processing power but equal to a snapdragon seems more practical as it's more power efficient but the capability is the same. and i kinda hate qualcomm (or htc ??? w/c do i blame?) for a dissapointing 7200 chip on htc kaiser w/c was advertised to be promising when it's really not. i don't like qualcomm...

i also wish maemo gets a fair treatment like symbian is having...
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2010-02-19 , 17:21
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Haha the irony! I bet those Symbian phones with Snapdragon are gonna still have that trademark Symbian lag when going from menu to the next. The irony!

But thesedays the Snapdragon is so commonplace in "high-end" phones, that it's more a marketing thing than actually wanting to create a powerful piece of hardware. It's "trendy" to have a Snap under the hood.

I bet that the N900 will be more powerful than any Symbian running a Snap.
 
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2010-02-19 , 17:22
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I think great. But like i read that there is a quad core mobile ARM CPU in development i hope my next phone will be equipied with that one
ooohhh ... i guess than all phone owners can participate in the SETI programme
 
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Originally Posted by cjp View Post
Haha the irony! I bet those Symbian phones with Snapdragon are gonna still have that trademark Symbian lag when going from menu to the next. The irony!

But thesedays the Snapdragon is so commonplace in "high-end" phones, that it's more a marketing thing than actually wanting to create a powerful piece of hardware. It's "trendy" to have a Snap under the hood.

I bet that the N900 will be more powerful than any Symbian running a Snap.
if you think that than you obviuosly have no idea how powerful symbian is under the UI, its got many great core features that no OS can match including Maemo.
 
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2010-02-19 , 17:26
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Originally Posted by NvyUs View Post
if you think that than you obviuosly have no idea how powerful symbian is under the UI, its got many great core features that no OS can match including Maemo.
Well yeah but if all we see is the end product with the UI slapped on the great core features?

I definitely agree with you and know about how Symbian is actually still very current, its just that the end product, or what they do with what's there manages to dissapoint (and bore) me every time. Just a difference in taste!
 
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