I've been wondering if we should also rethink Diablo in light of MeeGo. Particularly, with the availability of GTK+, is it feasible to dare dream of doing Hildon extensions and porting existing GTK+ Diablo apps to work on top of Meego?
I'll ask the reverse question. We have emulators for other OSs in the gaming world, would it be possible to write a Meego emulator for Diablo?
I assume the answer is no. If you could emulate it you could run it. But maybe I'm wrong.
I love my N800 and use it daily as well. I am a device geek and search at least weekly for the latest and greatest. Until I can find a device in the N800 form factor with a 2GB processor and 2GB of RAM, it's still the best thing going. I've got Open Office (thanks Qole!) a bluetooth keyboard paired, just paired a mouse (thanks Jolouis!), and all the other radio and mplayer functions that others have mentioned. Maemo mapper is fantastic, and thanks to the community I can update my repository links anytime Google might change them. Love OM Weather too. I've moved my boot to an SDHC card, and now have no problems with memory or storage. The only negatives are not on the N800 side - I can no longer bluetooth my blackberry for a cellular network connection (thanks Sprint - and if anyone knows a way around that please let me know), and I ran into a .pdf DRM issue with some materials I needed for a class (no Linux support at all). The N900 is already obsolete, and for me offered nothing except 200mhz more processing power - which doesn't get you much. I welcome any enhancements that allow me to make the most out of the 400mhz that I do have. I enjoy testing, and can script at a novice level. I'll use my N800 as a near laptop replacement until I can get an N800 with more power!
So, mer 0.17 is the end of line for n8x0, or mer^2 will be meego for the n8x0?
No, it will be Debian 5.0 with Fremantle sources plus binaries on top. MeeGo is another ballgame and we'll have to see sources of it before it can be determined it will run.
On the other hand, - this is not the desktop that N8x0 will run, but it is actual Fremantle binaries running on top of Debian 5.0 + Fremantle base APIs: Mer^2. See where I'm going with this backport?:
@Stskeeps
Yeah so your plan is to boot into Mer^2 on the N900, run any old un-hildonized Linux program and also be able to run and install Fremantle packages side-by-side; rather than the current solution of booting Fremantle and opening a chroot of Debian to run un-hildonized programs. The question is will this method allow you to run any of the closed-source components without modification.
and to summarize...(based on what you are implying)
Pros
* No chroot needed, so no extra over-head and performance loss
* Run gnome/kde/etc. "Desktop" programs AND fremantle programs (no either/or)
* Reverse-engineering all N900 drivers/components not necessary
Cons
* N900 ONLY
* will need a good amount of work to be "flawless"
* as-of-yet unencountered problems will crop up
Or am I completely mistaken??
...Are you able to magically run omap3 binaries on omap2 hardware? o_O
Particularly, with the availability of GTK+, is it feasible to dare dream of doing Hildon extensions and porting existing GTK+ Diablo apps to work on top of Meego?
Meego doesn't include Hildon1 anymore so that would need to be "ported" first. It does include GTK+ and Clutter so porting Hildon2 and Fremantle apps also seems doable.
I'll ask the reverse question. We have emulators for other OSs in the gaming world, would it be possible to write a Meego emulator for Diablo?
Why emulate? A chroot environment (like qole's easy-*) would do the trick.
The main blocker AFAIUI (and it's early days so take with a large pinch of salt) is the requirement for OpenGL*, so it seems that we need to get the TI drivers working before attempting anything else.
MeeGo is another ballgame and we'll have to see sources of it before it can be determined it will run.
Well, since fremante is stillborn, I hope it can.
Since they say that, differently than hildon which used some non-standard interfaces for some components, meego will be standard linux, I suppose it's just[*] a matter of compiling it for the right architecture (just like current distros are building for i586 and x86_64) and having hardware support in the kernel.
[*]I reckon it's not a simple "just"
@Stskeeps
Yeah so your plan is to boot into Mer^2 on the N900, run any old un-hildonized Linux program and also be able to run and install Fremantle packages side-by-side; rather than the current solution of booting Fremantle and opening a chroot of Debian to run un-hildonized programs. The question is will this method allow you to run any of the closed-source components without modification.
and to summarize...(based on what you are implying)
Pros
* No chroot needed, so no extra over-head and performance loss
* Run gnome/kde/etc. "Desktop" programs AND fremantle programs (no either/or)
* Reverse-engineering all N900 drivers/components not necessary
Cons
* N900 ONLY
* will need a good amount of work to be "flawless"
* as-of-yet unencountered problems will crop up
Or am I completely mistaken??
...Are you able to magically run omap3 binaries on omap2 hardware? o_O
No, N800/N810. It might work on N900 but I'm not going to actively pursue this. The idea is to try and rebuild Fremantle extras and components from Fremantle on top of this, so we get the Fremantle experience.
