lma | # 91 | 2010-02-21, 17:23 | Report

We can't know that yet, and besides I can beat it easily: the 770 was the only Maemo 1 / Maemo 2 device ever :-)

Anyway, sorry for getting the discussion sidetracked. I just tried to say that the publicly available information at the moment doesn't say whether Maemo 5 will get longer official support, though I remain cautiously optimistic.

luca | # 92 | 2010-02-21, 18:00 | Report

Actually it does, if you translate from marketspeak to plain english

Stskeeps | # 93 | 2010-02-21, 19:51 | Report

Just the usual disclaimer: I do not speak for Nokia (and frankly I'm happy I don't have that responsibility), maemo.org (that's council's job) or the angry monkey in my closet. My opinions are my own and I only know what I said in the OP based on experience and what information is actually out. I don't know the future of MeeGo or the N900, but I know that instead of worrying, it's better to help create the future !

anonym | # 94 | 2010-02-21, 23:02 | Report

Agreed.

If you're really unhappy with your N900's current functionality and are convinced it's not going to improve, maybe you should sell it. But If you do like your N900 (as most people here seem to), the lack of Harmattan support should only affect your opinion of Nokia, not of the hardware you already payed for. Like I said in my last post, I'm really not worried because I already have the best phone currently on the market for my uses, and I'm sure it will still get better, even without Harmattan/MeeGo. At the same time, I really do care about long term support, so this will probably be my last device from Nokia (unless they change their plans for the N900). I'm just happy that boycotting Nokia will no longer restrict my choice of platform. We're FREE!

With multiple open alternatives to the iPhone on the market (read: MeeGo and Android), everyone wins! Well, everyone except Apple.

edit: Sorry, I guess I'm kind of repeating what I said in my last post, but it's a long thread and I wanted to reply to the recent arrivals.

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maxximuscool | # 95 | 2010-02-21, 23:16 | Report

Just stop worrying and start living guys. Enjoy the last juice of the N900 while you still can. :-)

sygys | # 96 | 2010-02-22, 06:57 | Report

LOL im not worrying about the drivers for MeeGo! There arent even freaking descent drivers for the front camera on maemo 5!

Offcourse meego will be ported somehow by the community and sure nokia let them. the only reason they do that is because they are to darn lazy to make a device wich atleast has all it functions working in the first place!

Im just getting tired of the unfinished glitching devices that nokia keeps releasing and releasing. most of the time needing 10 firmware updates before something finnaly works descent. Its not only the n900.

The n900 is an awsome device i really love it. And the community making all this worth keep using the n900 too. its only to bad nokia has a finger on it!

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abbra | # 97 | 2010-02-22, 07:33 | Report

If this is about quality of output, it is far from drivers' fault. Camera module is mediocre at best by itself and you would need to apply same enhancements algorithms as we do for main camera, except that it needs different tuning parameters. PR1.2 will show how much is possible.

Most if not all applications in extras that tried to use front camera, were ignoring quality enhancements suggestions. Basically, nobody even runs enhancement processing with front camera, it is quite visible in Mirror application, for example. Even simple noise reduction would improve things though for better quality more advanced algorithms are needed.

felbutss | # 98 | 2010-02-22, 07:53 | Report

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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=45402

attila77 | # 99 | 2010-02-22, 11:56 | Report

Wha ? What suggestions ? Where ? We're just using gstreamer. Now, I know that the proper way is to insert a noise-reduction element, but it IS a bit of an overkill to make your own if you just want to enable the camera. I did try hooking into the main cam's postprocessing elements, but results weren't that good - as you probably say, due to the different (some hardcoded) parameters (more docs on the Nokia gstreamer elements certainly WOULD help). For reference, I'm the guy who wrote the Mirror app

nappleton | # 100 | 2010-02-22, 13:55 | Report

:0( I can't to just up and buy a the new nokia n950 i'm tied into a contract for 18 months. There is alot about the phone and it's function as a phone that i was hoping over time would be fixed in updates does that mean its unlikely now?

If i have the option to switch this phone as i'm only 10 days into my contract and having masses of problems with freezes and rebooting should i get rid of it now for the htc touch pro 2?

Bearing in mind now matter how much i love this phone when it works lol i'm not a massively tech minded person and in the event nokia stops supporting it i will never be capable of running programes via the comp onto the phone if you see what i mean i can only just about handle downloaded programes/updates and apps from the phones app manager section.

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