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2010-02-23
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#162
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Originally Posted by bergie
On Products, wasn't the amount of votes supposed to have some effect? According to the wiki, it doesn't:
Updated: http://wiki.maemo.org/Karma#Weights
Products, applications in Maemo Downloads: 7 * (1 + stars per application
And finally Discussion. For some strange reason I have no karma for it, although I have posted few times in maemo-developers. Not much, but it should show something anyway, no?
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2010-02-23
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@ Helsinki
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#163
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Originally Posted by Sasler
At the moment we only look at the stars (average of votes). Though number of downloads and number of votes could easily be used as factors there too, as there is simple access to that.
On Products, wasn't the amount of votes supposed to have some effect? According to the wiki, it doesn't
Originally Posted by Sasler
I'd love to make the bugzilla stats a bit more qualitative. If we got stats about bug votes and also of resolutions (so we can filter out duplicates etc), I'd be more than happy to utilize those in karma.
I think also voting for a bug in Bugzilla should increase karma. After all, if a bug doesn't get any votes, it would appear as the bug doesn't exist. On the other hand, if there are several votes for it, a fix might come sooner.
Originally Posted by Sasler
Discussion karma requires that the site has recognized you as the sender of those messages. So your maemo.org account has to have the exact email address you use to send messages to the lists.
And finally Discussion. For some strange reason I have no karma for it, although I have posted few times in maemo-developers. Not much, but it should show something anyway, no?
At the moment the matching is done when the emails come in, so if you add the email now to your profile it will not affect old emails. Though IIRC we may have some process that tries to sort out the old messages every now and then.
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2010-02-23
, 13:49
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#164
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Originally Posted by VDVsx
See !
PS.I'm starting to agree with direct numbers for each category, no more formulas
While my post was primarily tongue-in-cheek (I hope people realized that at least at the Gross Community Product mention 
), the bottom line is that different areas of the community are developing/changing at different paces, which will invariably lead to karma disrepancy after a while, even if we get the formulas right initially. Also, as we progress, sqrt will serve us less and less - because it will become clear even without looking that the high scorers will be those that are active in an area that is non-sqrt influenced.
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2010-02-23
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#165
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Originally Posted by attila77
I agree that this could probably be the most future proof system. Something like this:
See !
karma = activityValue * (userActivity / totalActivity)
OK. Let me explain what I had in mind. Let's take products as an example (these numbers are all imaginary and have nothing to do with reality).
activityValue = 5000 (the amount of total karma given to products)
totalActivity = 400 (the total amount of starts for all the apps)
userActivity = 4 (1 app with 4 stars)
karma = 5000 * (4 / 400)
So according to this the karma for the user would be 50.
The great thing about this system is that it's really easy to tweak. All one has to do is to change the activityValue.
Anyway, I hope I made some sense here and I didn't do too many mistakes.
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2010-02-25
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#166
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BUMP!!
Can we have the numbers a bit more balanced before the council elections ?
The blogs karma is a bit off
Can we have the numbers a bit more balanced before the council elections ?
The blogs karma is a bit off
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2010-02-25
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#167
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Wait! Let me write a few hundred more articles first!
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2010-02-25
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#168
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Originally Posted by VDVsx
Hi VDVsx,
BUMP!!
Can we have the numbers a bit more balanced before the council elections ?
The blogs karma is a bit off
May I ask: why?
Are there people under 100 karma who you think want to be candidates, who don't have enough karma and who should?
Or people over 100 karma who you don't want to be elligible to run?
Or people over 10 karma who shouldn't have a vote? Or under 10 karma who should?
Because if the answer to all those questions is no, why do anything which would only reorder the first 4 or 5 pages of rankings? And why must it be done before the elections?
Cheers,
Dave.
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2010-02-25
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#169
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Originally Posted by dneary
Because the current situation is unfair IMO + the non-agreed changes, and this was a task under my responsibility, if we can do a better job here, why not ?
Hi VDVsx,
May I ask: why?
Are there people under 100 karma who you think want to be candidates, who don't have enough karma and who should?
Or people over 100 karma who you don't want to be elligible to run?
Or people over 10 karma who shouldn't have a vote? Or under 10 karma who should?
Because if the answer to all those questions is no, why do anything which would only reorder the first 4 or 5 pages of rankings? And why must it be done before the elections?
Cheers,
Dave.
I'm not thinking in the people that can or cannot run for the council.
So, please lets agree in the blogs and bugs formula, Bergie is willing to change these next week.
If everybody is happy with the current situation I'll shut up.
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2010-02-25
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#170
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Well, if anyone is interested of my opinion, which I doubt, this is what I would like:
More karma:
Bugzilla
Products
(maybe Favourites)
Less karma:
Blogs
More karma:
Bugzilla
Products
(maybe Favourites)
Less karma:
Blogs
Ok, we clearly need to address the bug reports karma and blogs karma, the current situation is very unfair IMHO.
I'm for something similar to the old formula for bugs reports(4*#bugs), perhaps 2*#bugs to balance things a bit more ?
For blog, what about 2*sqrt(current_value) ? Or something similar ?
Opinions ?
PS.I'm starting to agree with direct numbers for each category, no more formulas
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