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2010-03-04
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#42
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Could someone clear this up for me so i don't make the same mistake twice....
Healthcheck app being voted down because of no bugtracker (http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...check/0.5.2-3/)
(Fair point the bug tracker is broken, Khertan has helped me earlier, so the next version in will have that fixed, hopefull* - thanks Khertan - so yes that deserves it)
But it's getting rejected because -
The QA Checklist quotes
Now i read that as bugtracker is not essential? - there is no part saying using T.M.O as a bug tracker is invalid?
If i am wrong, i'm happy to be told that, but i'd prefer it if it was discussed. I personally do not find the bugs tool helpful for me... (Understanding that it does need to be a community thing though...)
is it a case of clarifying both pages?
1. [ ] Bug database exist. (Technically it does, but due to a py2deb packaging error the link didn't work...) - so i made the effort to post the link again in the package description....
Yes i'm a bit upset, as i keep getting told people want to help, but skirt the question telling me to use bug tracker.... Unless it is the only official tool then i need not? Or i do just to please the few? (or i do to please the community... In which case it should be the rule?)
Hope all the above makes sense, because i do feel a bit like i'm chasing my tail
Healthcheck app being voted down because of no bugtracker (http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...check/0.5.2-3/)
(Fair point the bug tracker is broken, Khertan has helped me earlier, so the next version in will have that fixed, hopefull* - thanks Khertan - so yes that deserves it)
But it's getting rejected because -
Greg, could you please search and quote here the first item in QA checklist? hint: link to it can be found at least at http://wiki.maemo.org/Help_testing_software.
and if you don't bother, I can give a spoiler: first item is called something like "bugtracker"
...and if you think that the bugtracker requirements are unfair, drive a change to QA checklist, don't nag at the people who obey the checklist.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing...rting_database
Lack of bug reporting database
http://bugs.maemo.org/ is the preferred option. Otherwise it needs to be identified in the http://maemo.org/packages/ page.
If i am wrong, i'm happy to be told that, but i'd prefer it if it was discussed. I personally do not find the bugs tool helpful for me... (Understanding that it does need to be a community thing though...)
is it a case of clarifying both pages?
1. [ ] Bug database exist. (Technically it does, but due to a py2deb packaging error the link didn't work...) - so i made the effort to post the link again in the package description....
Yes i'm a bit upset, as i keep getting told people want to help, but skirt the question telling me to use bug tracker.... Unless it is the only official tool then i need not? Or i do just to please the few? (or i do to please the community... In which case it should be the rule?)
Hope all the above makes sense, because i do feel a bit like i'm chasing my tail
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2010-03-04
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#43
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey
No, it just means that it doesn't have to be hosted on bugs.maemo.org.
Now i read that as bugtracker is not essential?
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2010-03-04
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#44
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Originally Posted by pelago
but of a specific type ie, gitorius / bugtracker specific types? - doesn't say that though?
No, it just means that it doesn't have to be hosted on bugs.maemo.org.
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2010-03-08
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#45
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey
That is certainly not a requirement: I have seen no discussion of making that a requirement on either the -community or the -devel lists, so it can't be a requirement. The requirements are set by the community, not by the testers or a wiki-discuss-page discussion. Otherwise, how would developers ever know when they change?
but of a specific type ie, gitorius / bugtracker specific types? - doesn't say that though?
The testers should feel free to discuss proposed changes amongst themselves, but the only way changes can be approved is by posting them to maemo-community (and, as a courtesy, copy maemo-devel).
Graham
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2010-03-08
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#46
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so the only requirement i failed on was the fact that the compiler created the bug tracking link incorrectly....
During which time i registered for a bugtracker account
So allthough my problem is resolved, kinda annoyed... first foray into programming for the N900... and the feeback was essentially not related to my app, but rather something that i couldn't personally control
Hopefully all sorted but still peeved that things could be easier...
During which time i registered for a bugtracker account
So allthough my problem is resolved, kinda annoyed... first foray into programming for the N900... and the feeback was essentially not related to my app, but rather something that i couldn't personally control
Hopefully all sorted but still peeved that things could be easier...
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2010-03-08
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#47
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Originally Posted by noobmonkey
Yes, you can control, dpkg-buildpackage will not create bad packages for sure, if you have everything right, the developer is responsible for the quality of is code as for the tools that uses
so the only requirement i failed on was the fact that the compiler created the bug tracking link incorrectly....
During which time i registered for a bugtracker account
So allthough my problem is resolved, kinda annoyed... first foray into programming for the N900... and the feeback was essentially not related to my app, but rather something that i couldn't personally control
. If you choose bad materials for your house and the walls crack after a while who is the responsible ? Anyway we're here to help any doubts/concerns, shot
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2010-03-08
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by VDVsx
hehe thanks
Yes, you can control, dpkg-buildpackage will not create bad packages for sure, if you have everything right, the developer is responsible for the quality of is code as for the tools that uses
Anyway we're here to help any doubts/concerns, shot
- i agree Have to learn somewhere though
- and i do like khertan's package. once i did it once, it makes quick builds easy Also, good point... i probably should learn other ways so i don't winge again in a few weeks
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2010-03-09
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#50
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Originally Posted by Flandry
yes after I realized what the point of redirection was, it barely fills the criteria. but you can't say it isn't confusing way to do it....
Let's not get confused on this point. Mikko's app seems to me to meet this criterion.
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Now this requirement was added there without any discussion:
A link to the package in the testing queue http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...ng_free_armel/[packagename] The reason is that there will be no bug history once there is published a new version.
it should have been added to proposals
How is "bug history" handled when mailto links are used? Why it's so important to you? For simple packages (such as simple ports) mailto links and package interface are perfectly fine.
And generally testing requirements shouldn't be discussed in small circles like testingsquad-list