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2010-03-05
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Its advertised as an internet tablet with an ability to make phone calls with restricted functionality.Pretty much serves the purpose though it would be nice to have extra phone features. But then phones like the HTC touch pro2 for example can do most things like the n900. Its a bit over hyped tbh
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2010-03-05
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Originally Posted by anti-dualism
Is it really advertised like that anywhere? Link?
Its advertised as an internet tablet with an ability to make phone calls with restricted functionality.
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2010-03-05
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Originally Posted by pelago
Not advertised quote verbatim "Internet phone with an ability to make phone calls with restricted functionality".
Is it really advertised like that anywhere? Link?
but it sells like one thanks to reviews.I think its pretty much true.
http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...#/main/landing
Top of page - N900 Mobile phone.
Bottom left hand corner of page - Mobile Computer.
Looks like Nokia is confused
Last edited by anti-dualism; 2010-03-05 at 16:52.
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2010-03-06
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i think it is completely useless to talk about the way of advertising...
is it a quad-band gsm mobile and an internet tablet or an internet tablet with an quad-band mobile? who cares?
it is both, and so the people need funktions for both ways of using.
one of them is the sim tool kit...
a lot of people need these funktions.
is it a quad-band gsm mobile and an internet tablet or an internet tablet with an quad-band mobile? who cares?
it is both, and so the people need funktions for both ways of using.
one of them is the sim tool kit...
a lot of people need these funktions.
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2010-07-06
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Why cant people learn to read threads!!
Ï have seen several people ask what is sim menu. Whats is used for. Why even care and so on. Maybe you dont need it so why bother or answering this thread with answers like "you should have inestigate it before bought N900" and so on.
I like my N900 and prefer it over other broken Linux phones like Android. But still this is an issue that is a problem for me and others.
As a swedish N900 customer i really need this feature.
In several post the answer is simple:
SIM menus or sim card toolkit is used for bank and identifieing systems in many european countrys including sweden.
This should be highpripority for nokia. IMHO, a dont care a mush about Flash 10.1 but for me SIM card toolkit is important more important.
I am for sure is not intrested to have two mobiles in my pockets, one for ringing, one for "internet" I want ONE that works for everything! And not a an Iphone or Android I want N900 to do the job!
But I can understand if nokia will not implement this in N900 this phone was to test the market. But I really hope nextgen Maeo6/Meego phone/tablet has this feature else nokia has no chance to compete with other smartphones or infact not normal phones.
But the important question now is if its even is possible for the OSS community to implement this future, is the phone stack opensources for example?
As far as i know it is not but maybe its possible via dbus to send commands? Or using ofono libs?
I dont have a clue would be great if someone could give a better direction on this issue instead of wining aboput how stupid we are that bought wrong phone?
The brainstorms says nothing. just some wining about "nokia engineers should doit"
Last edited by mikecomputing; 2010-07-06 at 18:34.
Ï have seen several people ask what is sim menu. Whats is used for. Why even care and so on. Maybe you dont need it so why bother or answering this thread with answers like "you should have inestigate it before bought N900" and so on.
I like my N900 and prefer it over other broken Linux phones like Android. But still this is an issue that is a problem for me and others.
As a swedish N900 customer i really need this feature.
In several post the answer is simple:
SIM menus or sim card toolkit is used for bank and identifieing systems in many european countrys including sweden.
This should be highpripority for nokia. IMHO, a dont care a mush about Flash 10.1 but for me SIM card toolkit is important more important.
I am for sure is not intrested to have two mobiles in my pockets, one for ringing, one for "internet" I want ONE that works for everything! And not a an Iphone or Android I want N900 to do the job!
But I can understand if nokia will not implement this in N900 this phone was to test the market. But I really hope nextgen Maeo6/Meego phone/tablet has this feature else nokia has no chance to compete with other smartphones or infact not normal phones.
But the important question now is if its even is possible for the OSS community to implement this future, is the phone stack opensources for example?
As far as i know it is not but maybe its possible via dbus to send commands? Or using ofono libs?
I dont have a clue would be great if someone could give a better direction on this issue instead of wining aboput how stupid we are that bought wrong phone?
The brainstorms says nothing. just some wining about "nokia engineers should doit"
Last edited by mikecomputing; 2010-07-06 at 18:34.
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2010-07-06
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Originally Posted by zerojay
people, what is wrong with this reseach thing? i did reseach and i found a lot of things nokia officially promised to do. i found a lot of bugs of maemo they worked on. yes - i do not conplain about no video calls over phone or portrait mode - as that wasn't promised, but still there are basic stuff it has to do, there are still a lot of bugs(some are serious things that need to be resolved but they wouldn't), nokia promised flash, but most sites work with flash 10 only. and i don't care how they call n900 - as the maemo is not finished, and n900 is test platform (it was sold more than the test thing would be sold), why would it would be sold as phone at all? and the headshot is "maemo is dead, nokia moved to meego"
Hey, if you want to be taken seriously about anything, don't go around saying stupid stuff like Nokia should be sued for illegal advertising. Don't get mad at Nokia because you didn't do any research before you bought a $600 product.
I had no idea people still stored anything on SIM cards anymore.
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2010-07-06
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
The problem is, this started off as a "We should sue Nokia for false advertising" thread, so you'll most probably not get any benevolent answers in here.
Why cant people learn to read threads!!
Ï have seen several people ask what is sim menu. Whats is used for. Why even care and so on. Maybe you dont need it so why bother or answering this thread with answers like "you should have inestigate it before bought N900" and so on.
I like my N900 and prefer it over other broken Linux phones like Android. But still this is an issue that is a problem for me and others.
As a swedish N900 customer i really need this feature.
In several post the answer is simple:
SIM menus or sim card toolkit is used for bank and identifieing systems in many european countrys including sweden.
This should be highpripority for nokia. IMHO, a dont care a mush about Flash 10.1 but for me SIM card toolkit is important more important.
I am for sure is not intrested to have two mobiles in my pockets, one for ringing, one for "internet" I want ONE that works for everything! And not a an Iphone or Android I want N900 to do the job!
But I can understand if nokia will not implement this in N900 this phone was to test the market. But I really hope nextgen Maeo6/Meego phone/tablet has this feature else nokia has no chance to compete with other smartphones or infact not normal phones.
But the important question now is if its even is possible for the OSS community to implement this future, is the phone stack opensources for example?
As far as i know it is not but maybe its possible via dbus to send commands? Or using ofono libs?
I dont have a clue would be great if someone could give a better direction on this issue instead of wining aboput how stupid we are that bought wrong phone?
The brainstorms says nothing. just some wining about "nokia engineers should doit"
Try to open a request thread back in the developer forum - there's quite a couple of people messing with dbus already, so maybe either one of them will take the bait and start developing something, or at least you'll get an answer as to what would be possible.
Sadly, I'm not much into OS hacking, or else I'd take up the challenge myself. But chances for finding someone over at the development forum are at least higher than here on a whine thread.
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2010-07-06
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"Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone? "
Because it is a great but very special smart phone/micro computer, it still is a phone for "most of the customers" I think. It is for me. There is of course loads of quirks and problems I wish was fixed. If I should buy another phone now, I would still go for the N900 (time, price and what else is available).
Because it is a great but very special smart phone/micro computer, it still is a phone for "most of the customers" I think. It is for me. There is of course loads of quirks and problems I wish was fixed. If I should buy another phone now, I would still go for the N900 (time, price and what else is available).
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2010-07-06
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Originally Posted by soeiro
It's not like that at all, a better analogy would be buying a computer and expecting it to be able to play certain video games, but it not having the specs to do so, or the games not being available on the operating system you're using.
You fail to realize that I'm referring to it being sold as a GSM-compatible phone.
It is just like buying a computer that you can't install an operating system. it is sure a computer, because it can compute (if you can program it in machine language). But you can't use it to do any other thing that "computers" are expected to be used for. Word processing, for example.
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that is YOUR view....
other people need a sim tool kit for changing between buiseness part and non buiseness part of their provided card contract.
another useful feature is the possibillity to use twin card adaptors. also to switch between the cards (one for phoning with gsm, one for internet with 3g)