I noticed that the info on Maemo.org's Wiki is often out-of-date and wrong so I thought I'd do an edit. The "create an account" link creates an account on "garage.maemo.org" which does NOT work with the login on maemo.org ! Maybe maemo.org used to be run by the Nokia folks before it was left in its present sorry state? Oh, and I also see that many (most?) of the apps suffer from "Linux hacker syndrom" i.e. "real programmers don't do debugged install files and documentation" . Do you guys really still wonder why Windows and Mac OS really don't have anything to worry about as far as Linux goes .

I find the Maemo.org site atrocious. It is frequently down, spewing random database errors and is poorly organized. There isn't even a link to the main garage.maemo.org website from the main page of maemo.org! Their downloads section doesn't look to be maintainted at all. It was honestly better when the downloads section was just a wiki page.

It's true that the site is often in non-optimal shape; nonetheless I'm glad that someone is working on apps we can use other than Nokia. The downloads section I check on is obviously maintained, since it has changes made in the last week or so. It's the one you jump to if you click Software at the top of this page.

Does anyone see any way to contact the maintainer? The lack of any obvious way to do so smells like Nokia to me . Are we sure it isn't just on autopilot, the updated software list could be generated by scripts monitoring certain projects?

What I dislike the most is the wiki, which is IMO difficult to edit and very poorly organised (lots of pages are not in the index- or overview pages). The latter is probably caused by / made worse by the former.
I find the wikipedia-style wikis much easier to work with, I've basically given up on contributing to maemo's wiki.

Agreed. I would really love to see a good, solid Wiki on n770/n800/Maemo/etc. stuffs.

If you have good ideas to improve the wiki it would be perfect that you could comment on the following thread in the maemo-developers list: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//ma...ly/010760.html

roadranger, you can create a bug in https://bugs.maemo.org I think that it's the better way for to do this. Also you look at the following bug (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1612), it's necessary to wait approximately 10 minutes until the account is activated. To avoid spammers, I think.

Rocketman, in maemo.org if that exists a link for garage.maemo.org, it's at right justly on Carman's ad.
The downloads list I think that it can be update for anyone, I try that my programs are updated there, but there will be programs that aren't show there and programs that aren't updated.

Sorry for my english
Cheers.

A three parter:

1) I'm always getting this on maemo.org when I try to go into anything https:

There is a problem with this website's security certificate.
The security certificate presented by this website has expired or is not yet valid.
The security certificate presented by this website was issued for a different website's address.
Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server.
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this is microsoft trying to extract money from the web by getting all secure websites to use (pay for) their certificates. I think you can go to 'details' and install the cert so it won't complain on subsequent visits, but I don't use that browser.

rob.

I see it now. I had given up on the main entry page ever being organized and just have direct links in my bookmarks to planet.maemo.org and the garage.maemo.org subsections. The main page actually isn't bad anymore, but I still stand by my comments regarding the sites reliability, poor download section, wiki, etc.