I was talking about the client, of course. Per my USB Flash memory stick, I use Phonerlite to interface my SIP account with Voicestick. Before, I used SJ Labs via my PDA.

Gizmo Project, what's installable on the 770/800 is in direct comparison to Skype, not yet offered for this platform. IM, VoIM/IP, et al. Won't lie, I've yet to dive into the SIP portions of Gizmo despite using it for a couple of years; just always used different, lighter apps instead. It's insistence on installing/using of Bonjour on the PC/Mac always annoyed me.

I'm still unhappy with the credit expiration being set at 180 days. That's rather poor in this time and age.

gerbick, I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about at all.

If you're talking about Gizmo, the client, there is no such thing as a credit expiration. You set it up to use your existing SIP-account and that's it. Whether or not you have to pay at all, how you pay, what you pay for and when or if any credits will expire depends on your provider, not on the client you use (which just happens to be Gizmo in this case).

Ok. Gizmo Project client has a system that allows you to add credit to your Gizmo Project account. Just like the Skype client.

So if you were to use Gizmo instead of your SIP client access, you'd use that funding instead.

I'm quite sure you've seen the numbers that indicate a credit is on the account. In fact, they give you 25 cents USD to start off and dial directly from the Gizmo Project client to a landline, that number will decrease.

Thus, you will have to add more to it if you were to continue using that Gizmo based access to landlines.

That funding of the Gizmo Project client for dialing out to landlines will expire in 180 days, per their terms and conditions.

I'm quite sure it's not necessary for me to supply screenshots - no disrespect meant. Just thought it was common knowledge of what I'm speaking of.

Perhaps you use Gizmo for just SIP. Not all do.

http://gizmoproject.com/call-out.html

There you go. Gizmo Project's Call-Out. To call a landline and you've not set up a SIP account... it will cost you. It's free between PC's and via their program to qualifying numbers; however to call a number outside of that will cost you.

gerbick, so you're talking about Gizmo, the service. (As opposed to Gizmo, the client.) This is the basic misunderstanding, because your original question was: "As far as SIP-based clients go on the 770/800, I've yet to locate one that allows me to use my established Voicestick account." - So I was focused on the SIP-functionality of the Gizmo-client.

I never ever used the Gizmo-Service, it's USA-centric and of no value here. Besides, I wouldn't add a third VoIP-account to my collection just for the fun of it

haha... understood now.

Just not having too much luck with incorporating my Voicestick account with Gizmo (client) at all.

There seems to be a lot of Skype bashing in this thread. (Perhaps bashing is a bit strong.) Here's my perspective from the 'other side':

For what it's worth, I have just purchased an N800 now that the Skype client is available for it. Prior to that, I had no real interest in the N800. I don't need a tiny, portable web browser -- for the things I look up on the web "on the go", the craptastic web browser in my Blackberry is entirely sufficient. For me, the web browser in the N800 is primarily a means to sign into a hotspot so that I can use Skype. Any 'real' web surfing I do, I do from my laptop. I don't need/want the N800 for "office"/PDA usage either, as my Blackberry already provides that functionality.

Skype may be a closed, proprietary system, but it "just works". As someone who travels a fair bit for work (average of about 80,000-100,000 miles a year), including internationally, that's important to me. The various SIP services I've tried seem to work OK from home, but are very hit-or-miss (more on the miss side) when traveling and at the mercy of hotspots/hotel Internet/etc. Whereas I have yet to to have Skype fail to work for me. Plus, I have SkypeIn numbers in three countries all on the same Skype account, which has been a great way for people I deal with to call me as a local call, regardless of where I happen to be traveling to. And Skype per-minute charges are vastly cheaper than mobile phone international roaming rates (as in 1/50th the cost). And as time goes by, more and more of the people I know are now on Skype, and thus entirely free to call.

I got the N800 to have a small Skype device to use when pulling out a laptop is not really appropriate/desired. I chose the N800 over the various 1st generation Skype WiFi phones (SMC, Belkin, NetGear) primarily because the N800 Skype client also supports Skype chat, which I use near as much as I do actual voice. The 1st gen Skype WiFi phones also lack the ability to log into portaled hotspots (though to some extent this has been mitigated by the implementation of Boingo in the Belkin version, and FON in the SMC version). And then there are the general issues of being 1st gen, like the echo problems the WiFi candybars all have.

For how the N800 is marketed, I think Skype fits in well. While things like OpenOffice will definitely appeal to some people, for the audience they are targeting, they need to solve other problems first. My biggest problem is that the N800, for being an "Internet Tablet", still requires too much work to get connected to the Internet. (And I'm a Network Engineer.) The wireless connection manager in the N800 is a dreadful piece of UI engineering. Nokia would do very well to get Boingo to port their wireless connection manager to the N800, making it trivial for people to get automagically signed in regardless of where they are, what SSID the hotspot is using, or what company is running the hotspot. Then if they add PAP support to TTLS to support automatic login to T-Mobile hotspots, the device really can be used "on the go" and provide a much more fluid, "always on" Internet experience. (In the states, T-Mobile has probably the best hotspot coverage. For the rest of the world, Boingo and its partners provide better coverage. Unfortunately, T-Mobile wants you to see their branding and will not partner with companies like Boingo that replace the login. T-Mobile is pretty much the only major hotspot provider that Boingo doesn't have automatic login/roaming access to.)

My experiencees with the voice quality of skype are very well. It was also very good when i took my mobile phone (SE W800i) as gprs modem (max. 52,8 kBit/s) for skype on n800.

The Skype client currently is a disaster IMO.
I don't see it as a viable tool until the fix the crashes and interface issues. They do seem to have an advantage in that their viop protocol seems to be much better for clarity then SIP. I plan to do some comparison tests.

Feature wise - GizmoProject wins out against Skype.

Skype has always been first and foremost a windows app.

Linux versions are added as an afterthought, sometimes they work too.

In all fairness as a windows app it takes a bit of beating, what we really want is for skype to allow linux develpers a peek at some code but since it became part of ebay I doubt that will happen.

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