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techngro is offline techngro
2010-05-04 , 02:50
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I see... So what does "lock" imply to you? Lock to me implies that I can't use any buttons on the phone without unlocking it. It's there to protect the phone while in my pocket, or if it gets bumped while I'm working out or running. Would you like the power button to shut the phone off if it's in your pocket and gets hit while locked?

Show me a phone were ANY external buttons work while locked and I'll show you a busted design. Every phone I've owned has locked the volume slider while locked. That includes Motorolas, Erricsons, and Nokias. So much for your research...
Hmmm...let me think. Oh, I know. My FRICKING 3 year old IPHONE allows me to raise and lower the volume when i'm listening to music without having to unlock the phone (i.e. slide to unlock).

You sir...well, you're just plain silly. I used to not understand why people used to call me an Apple fanboy for my (former) love of and devotion to all things Apple. But now I see what I was like back then.

It's sad.
 
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2010-05-04 , 03:58
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#112
yeah. I would love to be able to reach in my pocket and adjust the volume. It's kind of a pain to pull out the phone, unlock, adjust, lock, then put it pack in. Hardly a dealbreaker, but it would be nice.
 
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2010-05-04 , 04:03
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#113
@woody-thanks for being positive influence on using the N900. I am a complete novice but just started going thru the linux courses in linux.org to try and learn some things. I am downloading Debian ISO file and will install on a older laptop and try and learn how to play with linux.
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2010-05-04 , 04:33
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#114
Originally Posted by spartan445 View Post
...The apps that were supposed to flood out have literally tricked through and are at best a mish mash of utterly pointless applications...
while I dont necessarily agree or disagree with the rest of your post, i am going to object here. Have you really thought about this? Good luck finding an 'utterly pointless' application... they are all legit, all have a purpose. Maemo 5 must have the highest % useful apps out of ANY OS... I've found one 'iphone' app so far, the candle flickering app...
 
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2010-05-04 , 04:45
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Originally Posted by SAABoy View Post
while I dont necessarily agree or disagree with the rest of your post, i am going to object here. Have you really thought about this? Good luck finding an 'utterly pointless' application... they are all legit, all have a purpose. Maemo 5 must have the highest % useful apps out of ANY OS... I've found one 'iphone' app so far, the candle flickering app...
Hey! That candle flickering app came in very handy when I wanted a romantic dinner with my old woman/
 
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2010-05-04 , 04:58
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Originally Posted by techngro View Post
Hmmm...let me think. Oh, I know. My FRICKING 3 year old IPHONE allows me to raise and lower the volume when i'm listening to music without having to unlock the phone (i.e. slide to unlock).
You will find that the iStuff is very different from most other things. Most things, when locked, do not let you meddle with them until unlocked. Want some fun? Try your iPhone headset with mic on the N900 (or any non-iPhone with a 4-pin jack). Apple decided to not follow the standard used by everyone else and swapped the mic and ground pins, just because. For most people, lock means lock. Not lock a few things... lock everything.

That said, this IS the N900 we're talking about. I'm sure there's a way of changing the locking mechanism to allow some keys through if you really want to. Search for threads on locking, and if nothing exists yet, ask in a new thread. You may have the next hot app idea... Not one I'd install, but apparently several people want it. That's the great part about open source, if you don't like something, you can change it!

Originally Posted by DoctorA View Post
@woody-thanks for being positive influence on using the N900. ... I am downloading Debian ISO file and will install on a older laptop and try and learn how to play with linux.
Thanks, I think? Not sure how that pissing match inspired you, but... Bravo. Learning something new is always it's own reward. Worst case you'll learn a little more about how some of the insides of your N900 already work. If Debian is a bit too daunting, Ubuntu is also a good alternative to check out. MeeGo is going to be a little more that direction, though the differences in most places are minor. Ubuntu can be a little simpler to cut your teeth on at times though, since it tends to be the most automated of the bunch, at least as far as setup/startup is concerned. Good luck!
 

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2010-05-04 , 05:02
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#117
Originally Posted by techngro View Post
Hey! That candle flickering app came in very handy when I wanted a romantic dinner with my old woman/
And I've used to coin-flip app at least twice.

Honestly, a good chunk of the stuff in the OVI store does suck. All the more the shame, since that's what people see by default. All the good stuff is hidden in devel.

There's been a lot more migration to Extras in general though. So hopefully when PR 1.2 comes out, things will change for the better. Maybe OVI will have a new trick and try to re-open the pay side again once it rolls out? Happened last time...

Half the reason I want to get PR 1.2 right away is to hit the OVI store to finally buy part 2 of Angry Birds before it get's taken down again.
 
techngro is offline techngro
2010-05-04 , 05:12
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Understood, but it would make a lot of sense to make it so that if you are listening to music, the volume rocker is accessible. When you're not listening to music, then fine, lock the hell out of those buttons. Sine I know it can be done, it just makes it that much more disappointing that something so common sense hasn't been implemented on a device like the N900.

In any case, we kinda got off track. My only point was that there are legit things that disappoint and frustrate N900 users and others shouldn't be so quick to jump on them. No more posts from me on this thread. Gonna go play WOW.
 
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2010-05-04 , 05:28
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Originally Posted by imperiallight View Post
Ok but he doesn't seem like a troll.
He has mutated...he is now Troll 1.2
 

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2010-05-04 , 05:32
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#120
Originally Posted by techngro View Post
Hmmm...let me think. Oh, I know. My FRICKING 3 year old IPHONE allows me to raise and lower the volume when i'm listening to music without having to unlock the phone (i.e. slide to unlock).
Yes. Its stupid. They broke it in last FW-update and looks like they fixed it in next 1.2.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8011
 
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