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    Rauha | # 131 | 2010-05-07, 11:54 | Report

    Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
    /me wonders what exactly does 'professional CCD Sensor' in a dumbphone mean nowadays
    /me thinks no professional photographer would ever use that or describe it as 'professional'.

    Well, maybe Anssi Vanjoki if he loses his job at Nokia and decides to become a professional photographer.

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    Hintry | # 132 | 2010-05-07, 12:53 | Report

    Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
    /me wonders why this would be a "dumbphone" when the original iPhone in 2007 was called a "smartphone". - or could it be that these words just don't have any meaning whatsoever?
    Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
    Besides Apple, who called the iPhone a "smartphone"!? I'd classify it as a media phone, at best.

    The above was merely my opinion.
    C'mon guys, take the blinkers off just for a moment.

    A good smartphone must also have a really good web browser and email client.

    And by good email client I mean full HTML and previews of each email's body text. I don't want to open every email to view its message. iPhone had all this back in 1997.

    Granted, the N900's browser is excellent - however the email client is complete garbage.

    Does that qualify the N900 as a dumbphone?

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    gerbick | # 133 | 2010-05-07, 13:00 | Report

    For me, a smartphone duplicates the document editing/publishing portions of what I do in the office as well as other things.

    As I stated earlier, it's my opinion though... but the iPhone is more about media - iTunes Music Store, games via the iTMS, a semi-decent browser, a semi-decent e-mail app. But it's still mostly about music and apps, not exactly all about say... what BlackBerry offers in terms of communication, synchronization nor MS Office (sorry, it's an necessary evil) editing and publishing.

    And I've never (personally) qualified the N900 as a smartphone either. It's... what it is. That's all I can say honestly before I draw the ire of the masses.

    But the iPhone (to me) isn't quite exactly a smartphone by my expectations.

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    benny1967 | # 134 | 2010-05-07, 13:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by Hintry View Post
    C'mon guys, take the blinkers off just for a moment.

    A good smartphone must also have a really good web browser and email client.
    Oh. A new definition of smartphone again! It really seems every person on this planet has his own definition of "smartphone".

    In the past, I've heard:
    • must have PIM functionality
      or
    • must support PC-style copy/paste and multitasking
      or
    • must be able to run 3rd party applications
      or
    • is defined by running an OS that is not unique to the model, but hardware independent
      or
    • must have internet connectivity
      or
    • everything above $500,-

    Now you add web browsing and HTML mails. Cool.

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    slender | # 135 | 2010-05-07, 13:10 | Report

    Originally Posted by Hintry View Post
    A good smartphone must also have a really good web browser and email client.

    And by good email client I mean full HTML and previews of each email's body text. I don't want to open every email to view its message. iPhone had all this back in 1997.

    Granted, the N900's browser is excellent - however the email client is complete garbage.

    Does that qualify the N900 as a dumbphone?
    Yes, I also think that current version of email client is quite terrible when you compare to what you have on desktop computers and another smartphones/netbooks on same price market.

    But one thing what I do not understand is HTML in email. WTF seriously? I know that i got some newsletters and advertisements as html email, but besides that? Why on earth someone would use html in their email? Itīs pretty much worst thing you can do when communicating with other people. How on earth you know what system or client he/she is using?

    Iphone and 1997 again wtf? Where these people come from who think that something that has been around for couple of years means that itīs been forever?

    N900 excels on many other aspects and sucks monkeys balls on some. It has too big contrast between itīs official apps.

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    benny1967 | # 136 | 2010-05-07, 13:12 | Report

    Originally Posted by slender View Post
    But one thing what I do not understand is HTML in email. WTF seriously? I know that i got some newsletters and advertisements as html email, but besides that? Why on earth someone would use html in their email? Itīs pretty much worst thing you can do when communicating with other people. How on earth you know what system or client he/she is using?
    +1

    I wish my ISP would allow me to simply block all HTML mails. So useless. Such a waste of resources.

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    Hintry | # 137 | 2010-05-07, 13:22 | Report

    Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
    +1

    I wish my ISP would allow me to simply block all HTML mails. So useless. Such a waste of resources.
    Yeah I remember feeling the same way - in 1995.

    I project manage a team of software developers. We do a lot of screenshots and send markups via email. An image conveys a 1000 words or something like that...

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    Laughing Man | # 138 | 2010-05-07, 13:25 | Report

    Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
    Oh. A new definition of smartphone again! It really seems every person on this planet has his own definition of "smartphone".

    In the past, I've heard:
    • must have PIM functionality
      or
    • must support PC-style copy/paste and multitasking
      or
    • must be able to run 3rd party applications
      or
    • is defined by running an OS that is not unique to the model, but hardware independent
      or
    • must have internet connectivity
      or
    • everything above $500,-

    Now you add web browsing and HTML mails. Cool.
    And that's why terminology like smart phone, casual gamers, and so on are entirely pointless.

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    ysss | # 139 | 2010-05-07, 13:37 | Report

    I just want my feature phone.... (as opposed to feature-less one)

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    Hintry | # 140 | 2010-05-07, 13:41 | Report

    Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
    For me, a smartphone duplicates the document editing/publishing portions of what I do in the office as well as other things.

    As I stated earlier, it's my opinion though... but the iPhone is more about media - iTunes Music Store, games via the iTMS, a semi-decent browser, a semi-decent e-mail app. But it's still mostly about music and apps, not exactly all about say... what BlackBerry offers in terms of communication, synchronization nor MS Office (sorry, it's an necessary evil) editing and publishing.

    And I've never (personally) qualified the N900 as a smartphone either. It's... what it is. That's all I can say honestly before I draw the ire of the masses.

    But the iPhone (to me) isn't quite exactly a smartphone by my expectations.
    I'm big into cloud services for storage, synchronisation and document editing - Google Docs, Dropbox, Sugarsync, Flickr, etc. I also use Teamviewer and LogMeIn for remote control and support. Needless to say, there's an iPhone app for all of them. By my definition this type of functionality is smart - something I could only dream of 2 years ago. I'm also pretty sure I'd struggle to get the same functionality with a Nokia device.

    BTW - I use to love my Nokia Communicators (9110, 9210, 9500, E90). But those days are long gone...

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