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I totally understand that, but the tablet easily could be a useful business tool and and a pda replacement. The demographic Nokia selected is wrong. Hardware enthusiasts and hardcore linux folks will not provide a revenue stream to Nokia to make the tablet worthwhile in the long run. It will die without better software applications for business. I wish Nokia would pay Citrix to make a client and would facilitate pim development for offline use. Yeah . . . yeah . . . yeah - I know - that is not what the tablet was made for, but the tablet is a linux computer perfectly capable of doing all the things I (and many others) want, plus more.
As someone (I think it was Texrat? Maybe I'm wrong) pointed out sometime, somewhere, in some thread, the n800 has an 'n' at the begining of it, which denotes its one of nokia's multimedia series devices. A business class device would be an 'e' class device. Personally I agree that there should be an 'e' class internet tablet, though I myself have no desire for one, bit just seems like a good marketing move. Though it might not be such a great thing as we'd like to think it is. An e800 or e900 internet tablet would find itself in the awkward position of having a lot of overlapping features with highend smartphones, while itself lacking phone cababilities. Are people really going to want to carry around their smartphone (which in a lot of cases is actually required for their job) AND the internet tablet? The tablet can't replace the phone, it can't replace the laptop. It runs linux in comparison to smartphones which commonly have windows mobile now, which likes to play nice with corperate networks a bit easier than linux does. Plus it put it against things liek the Toshiba G900, which sports "3-inch WVGA (800 x 480) display, rear biometric scanner, 2 megapixel rear camera, front-facing video conferencing camera, 64MB of internal memory, miniSD expansion, tri-band HSDPA, 802.11b/g, Bluetooth, USB, video calling, and USB On-The-Go." Granted, the price point is higher, but that would be difficult to fight against over the hearts of the business minded out there. It's be nice, but its not an ingenius and obvious move.
 
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#32
I've had my N770 for about three weeks now. I've thought about getting one for a couple of years, but frankly, I felt they were a tad overpriced for the functionality. Anyway, when the buy.com deal came along for $129, that seemed to good to pass up and so I took the plunge. Picked up a 1GB card for like $20 too.

I knew exactly what it was and had no expectations for it as a PIM replacement. I wanted it solely as a quick-but-good internet browser for times when I don't want to fire up the laptop. I'm really enjoying this thing. More than I thought I would.

It's absolutely perfect for quick IMDB or wikipedia searches from the couch, or time-wasting through eBay auctions, or running a quick price check when I'm at a store (love that BT tethering), or catching up on some news. I've had dozens of PDA's over the last 6 or 8 years, ranging from Psions and Sharp Zauruses, to Palms and PocketPC's, and none of them even come close to the web experience on the N770. It's really fantastic for 'normal' web browsing. Of course, a few sites don't work so well such as YouTube (knew that would be a problem) and Java (which I didn't think would be a problem and believe that it's absurd that there's no JVM support), but for the vast majority of my 'regulars', it's great.

I've also found it great for watching downloaded episodes of TV shows (properly converted via Media Converter, of course). I also think the email client is satisfactory (add IMAP folders and ) and the GoogleChat functionality is great. I even inadvertantly made a voice call to a buddy the other night, and what a surprise when I discovered that! I also have enjoyed hooking it up to our Tivoli radio in the kitchen and piping in a little streaming audio while I/we cook or have dinner, etc.

I tried 2007HE on it, and it does work extremely well for a 'hacked' OS, but it still had a few too many quirks for my liking (mainly that I couldn't find any video settings that kept the audio and video in sync) and so I went back to 2006. The enhancements are nice but I'd rather fork of the $$$ for an N800 than put up with the quirks.

So yeah, I'm a casual user. I'm a software developer by day, so I have no desire to tinker with the N770 at night. After fighting with bugs and programmers all day, I just want it to work. The N770's (especially for around a hundred bucks) is great.

In fact, I like the N770 so much I'm tempted to pick up an N800 too. Such a great gadget, I hope Nokia keeps up the good work even though these things aren't very popular.

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#33
"Louis Armstong" got the source right () and while the whole "N" thing may seem silly to some folks, just know that Nokia, like many companies, is serious about marketing and doesn't want to create confusion for their customers. So "N" means Multimedia (go figure) and "E" means Enterprise (business) and never the twain shall share.

The problem here, as I've also said before, is that the N800 is far more computer than multimedia device... and I don't care how targeted the marketing is intended to be, the significantly-open sucker wants to fill a much broader space than it's been designated to occupy. That's why I told Qgil the product was "out of their hands" and its destiny was now largely being decided by customers. He disagrees, and maybe it's mere semantics involved.

Bottom line: it's a baby laptop. It's not just an Internet Tablet, I don't care how long and hard Nokia marketing adheres to that label.
 
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#34
I know some don't use it for business. I (will) use it about 75% personal / 25% business. For business, mostly PIM and (online) maps. For personal, internet banking, music, weather, news. The other technical stuff like voice, programing or whatever is not me. I might tinker a bit but thats it. I came this far after not even being a week yet of getting it.
 
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Casual? Well I slept with my tablet once - but nothing happened. I swear.
 
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Originally Posted by thoughtfix View Post
Casual? Well I slept with my tablet once - but nothing happened. I swear.
I have photos that say otherwise.

Wanna buy 'em?
 
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Originally Posted by thoughtfix View Post
Casual? Well I slept with my tablet once - but nothing happened. I swear.
Me too. The battery went flat and later it went into a reboot loop that needed a reflash to cure.

I'm sure there's a good punchline for this post, but I'll resist the urge to add one.
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I use my Tablet for work and for day to day business
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#39
I use my N800 all the time, every day. Mostly for catching up on websites and reading news, but I also use FBreader a lot and now that I have FreeCiv, Wesnoth, and Star Control II on it I'm using it to play games more and more. Especially the open-ended ones like SC II.
I've even used it for basic freehand note taking as well during job interviews and my employer was pretty much impressed that not only did I talk the IT management talk but walked the IT management walk with a device he had never seen/heard about before but he now wants one BADLY. Well, he also wants my N95 as well...
But for basic web browsing and news reading I only use my N800.
For text-heavy replies (like this one) I use my Macbook Pro.
 
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Note takers: What apps are you using? MaemoPad seems to be not that much different from the built in notes app. What's good?
 
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