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    fatalsaint | # 41 | 2010-05-11, 14:24 | Report

    Originally Posted by evil_m0nkey View Post
    Has Nokia confirmed this? or should we expect developers to make a port for this?
    Depends what you mean. No, there will not be "official" support for MeeGo on the N900 (as far as I'm aware).

    However, the N900 is the official development platform for MeeGo on ARM. Therefore; logic follows (and quim agreed in another thread) that all of the parts of the N900 should be working and released.

    What that means is; making and receiving phone calls, getting a GPS lock, FM stuff, Battery, etc - should all work.

    As far as what kind of software you should expect .. completely unknown at this point.

    The GUI version, unless it's changed (I haven't seen anything contradicting it yet) - is supposed to be out this Month. No idea what it'll have on it though, but I'm anxiously awaiting it (more-so than the infamous PR1.2, actually).

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    davidp | # 42 | 2010-05-11, 14:39 | Report

    Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
    Interesting point, I know no one even remotely interested in getting one, I have never met another person with one and I work as a business manager in the NHS, so travel between PCT's and work a lot in various GP surgeries. Being in IT I know loads of sad techie geeks as colleagues, again none have even remotely looked at the N900. (Partly me getting it and putting them off.) I see it as a dead format by this time next year.

    Someone said Nokia shouldn't be putting out apps, because google and apple don't. But they have support of developers, Nokia isn't getting support when they can't even get ovi suite to support the phone, and PC suite doesn't fully. That IS Nokia's fault and so no one will develop when Nokia won't. The only way to fight back with the overwhelming 'love in' that Apple and Android see, is subsidise it, pay companies to do it. Until then the Ovi suite is dead, the N900 is hamstrung and Nokia will just continue spiralling the drain.

    Too many people wait for the 1.2 release, but it isn't coming with an app to navigate in a car, it isn't coming with an app to tell me gas meter reading, or pay a bill, or find the nearest take away. That is what sells, that is what people want. (and thereby getting support from developers) 1.2 isn't an app store NOR is it basic features that should have been in out the box. It is fixing SOME bugs. Some of those bugs are not even real world issues for most of the people that bought the phone.

    I bet the mystical 1.2 release doesn't fix the bug that has made my battery suddenly go from two days life to less than eight hours of no use at all. I would log a bug, raise a forum post but what is the point, the phone is crap and I know it. Sad that I now have to accept that fact don't you think?
    Don't worry be happy... All platform had their problems... I came from Windows Mobile and I'm loving the N900 experience. Though it has its bugs still I can still be productive at it. Of course it lacks a wide variety of aplications, gps, etc... but that doesn't change the fact that the N900 is one of the best phones out there. Instead of "meego" I'd rather "theystayed" and mature the Maemo platform . I've tried Apples, Oranges, googles, and windows and the N900 has several advantage towards those and its up to Nokia to make it better. 6 months delay is a long time BUT all the other platforms aren't updated that often either...

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    johnel | # 43 | 2010-05-11, 14:43 | Report

    Originally Posted by m165 View Post
    I made the switch to Android last week (HTC Desire). No regrets so far, and I don't miss anything really.

    Of course the hardware keyboard is very good, and I certainly can't type as fast or as accurate yet on the Desire, but the auto correction makes it a breeze to type.

    I have actually rarely used it in landscape mode... which I did enjoy on the N900, and I was actually one who thought there was no need for portrait mode! One thing I find quite odd from my useage!

    As for the N900 browser, yes it is fantastic, but I've had no problems on the Desire, and I find it to load faster. The argument for "We don't need apps such as facebook, twitter, etc. because the web browser can do it" is void for me. Even on my Mac, I never use the Twitter site, I use an app for it. I'd use an app for Facebook if there was a decent one too. Again, thats for me, I'm sure a lot of people prefer the browser too apps. All about personal preference.

    One thing I did really like about the N900 is the way Conversations integrated with services such as Facebook chat and MSN. I use eBuddy on Android, which serves it's purpose.

    Oh, and multi-tasking. I prefer the way the N900 does it by a mile. I've yet to look into multi-tasking much on Android.

    At the end of the day, it's all about what the user needs or likes. I find I'm liking Android better as it's more productive for me. I do hope Meego works, and works well when it starts shipping on phones, as I enjoyed Maemo - I found it quite intuitive and easy to use, and currently I'm finding it was easier to use than Android in some areas.
    Now that is a sensible post.

    Good luck with your android phone.

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    nosa101 | # 44 | 2010-05-11, 14:45 | Report

    Originally Posted by evil_m0nkey View Post
    Flash is laggy, but I meant I click on a youtube video and it should open in the media player, than lag fullscreen and become unresponsive.
    zoutube opens in the media player

    You didn''t have to put up an "epic" post to tell us you are moving on to another phone. That's weak and inexcuseable. I'm sorry but you need to quit acting like a ***** and grow some balls.

    This is just pathetic. Why couldn't you leave your comment on your blog? You didn't have to link it. Or did you want the traffic? It's a bloody phone...your dog isn't dead

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    silvermountain | # 45 | 2010-05-11, 14:56 | Report

    Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
    On the contrary I feel quite proud surrounded by friends or strangers with iPhones. It gives me a feeling that everybody else has been "borged" not me XD

    My answer to the same question would be "sorry, this is not a phone; this is a tablet PC with cellular communication capability"
    Only thing is....the N900 is in most cases not "better" at doing anything than say the droid and in many cases even a jailbroken iPhone "wins".

    So even though it might make you feel better to think of that you have a device fewer people have - maybe it is also wise to ponder why that is. Most people go for functionality and user experience. Very few people go for 'philosophy' and 'uniqueness' - unfortunately (and trust me, I wish it wasn't so) - those two together have a tendency to create something that features few flavors/options and poor support.

    Not to say that one couldn't/shouldn't like/enjoy/"love" something niche (hey, I "love" my N810) - but I think it is also important to be honest about its shortcoming and stop touting something for what it should be - rather than what it is.

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    9000 | # 46 | 2010-05-11, 16:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by johnel View Post
    You sound like a Terminator : "I Am A Cybernetic Organism, Living Tissue Over Metal Endoskeleton"

    Let me guess you're from the future trying to save mankind from the Apple machines?

    I'd tell you but then I'd have to kill you! XD

    To all those who questioned our N900: sorry dudes, it's classified. Now get off my lawn!

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    Bratag | # 47 | 2010-05-11, 16:29 | Report

    Originally Posted by Patola View Post
    I feel the same way. Tired of *****ing and moaning, I've just became quieter. Stopped my plans of developping apps for the N900, stopped helping people on forums, stopped "living" my N900.

    But what I dislike the most is the twisted sense of unreality on these forums. It's incredible that there are people still defending Nokia's delay of PR1.2, saying stuff like 'it will be done when it's ready', presenting lame excuses like longstanding bugs and so on.

    I hate Nokia with passion. I'd like to do really bad things to their management staff. I do like Linux, with all its power and freedom, though. Kudos to Nokia's technical team, employed by a company undeserving their talents.
    So your solution to a device that is heavily reliant on community support is to cease trying to develop for it (although I dont really consider "considering" developing actually beneficial) and to cease helping people on the forums.

    I salute you as a perfect example of what is wrong with the youth of today.

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    HellFlyer | # 48 | 2010-05-11, 17:23 | Report

    Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post

    However, the N900 is the official development platform for MeeGo on ARM.
    Every time I hear that statement it makes me think again that I've been robbed by Nokia 600CAD for a device that lacks so many things that even my old N95 did is just ridiculous

    You're right everything should work but its not working The only reason I'm not installing leaked P.R 1.2 is because I know it wont give me more apps, i dont care about new keyboard or USSD codes I want to have Qt 4.6 developed apps.

    One more thing, yeah sure PR 1.2 can be delayed since its not ready yet but the question is why? You cant blame guys who work on it its the management's fault. I'm pretty sure Nokia is focused on promoting N8 and more people are working on MeeGo and Maemo is falling down into oblivion.
    Oh and btw Symbian ^3 is also a transitional to Symbian OS ^4 which means N8 and anything that runs that OS are doomed as well.

    Here read this article

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    Patola | # 49 | 2010-05-11, 18:26 | Report

    Originally Posted by Bratag View Post
    So your solution to a device that is heavily reliant on community support is to cease trying to develop for it (although I dont really consider "considering" developing actually beneficial) and to cease helping people on the forums.

    I salute you as a perfect example of what is wrong with the youth of today.
    If I had a solution - say, the code to fix some browser crash -, how would I implement and distribute it? It's Nokia's take. They have the repositories, they have the (closed) source code, they control everything and they do not allow access. The fact that we have some apps that fix bugs (fMMS, dialpad, FM Radio, etc.) makes it clearly that they are exceptions that can be treated separately.

    If it was possible to deploy a solution, I wouldn't be complaining in the first place.

    Besides, see what I picture as "unreality"? You say things like I'm the one in debt with the customers here. I'm the one who paid Nokia, not the other way around.

    I have limited time, limited resources and if I help people and develop (free) apps, I do it because I like it, because I feel motivated and supported. Since Nokia is making it so hard to me to like this stuff, I don't do it.

    Also, I'm no "youth". I'm 36.

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    BatPenguin | # 50 | 2010-05-11, 20:19 | Report

    Bah, the OP is an ignorant fool! Doesn't he know that all those complaints of his will be fixed in Fremantle!!1

    (sorry, couldn't resist, I'll go back to my cave now)

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