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2010-05-18 , 08:01
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#211
Originally Posted by geneven View Post
My fear is that this is seen as essentially the LAST thorough firmware release and the reason they are taking so long to release it is that they don't want any mopping up later -- they want to be done with it so they can move on to important things.

As I say, this is just a fear of mine, and I have no evidence it is true. But the desire to finish off the N900 and not leave anything left to do would explain the delay.



well apple is dropping support for the iphone 2G when 4.0 comes out..........................

apple gave the iphone 2G god knows how many firmware updates and 3 YEARS SUPPORT.

all nokia is good at is pumping and pumping more and more phones flooding the market. but no support
 
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2010-05-18 , 08:02
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#212
Originally Posted by jorjino View Post
Maybe you are right, but bare in mind that at this moment Nokia are in big influence to overtake iPhone and Android phones, also there is a Maemo/MeeGo focus rechange - it for sure takes a lot of work.

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yes, big companies start play a game and nokia lose it every day with they "new features, good support"... is it normal that every flagman Nokia phone is pure product wich need beta-testers? do you remember when you buy Nokia phone and haven't feeling that you are just beta tester? they have exelent and completed phone wich they are did 5 years ago))))))
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2010-05-18 , 08:08
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#213
Originally Posted by felbutss View Post
lol apple has made 3 phones and is taking over the world

nokia has made 8957424165743546745 phones and doesnt know what to do
and that is exactly while im enthusiastically waiting for the new iphone 4g.... buying that phone as soon as its out

nokia n900 had the potential, but lacked support, and a friendly ui, i dont see how nokia can invest so much in R&D and still lack many things.....
not many apps, no interest in companies developing for it,
n900 was dead on arrival
worst 600 dlls i spent in my life

like theyve said before, nokia seems to move on from one device to another as fast as they can.....not really focusing on whats important
 
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2010-05-18 , 08:10
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#214
Originally Posted by felbutss View Post
lol apple has made 3 phones and is taking over the world

nokia has made 8957424165743546745 phones and doesnt know what to do
"8957424165743546745" where is this number picked up from as amazing as the picture
 
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2010-05-18 , 08:21
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#215
i posted this in other thread, but in this it would be funny too

 

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2010-05-18 , 10:16
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Originally Posted by felbutss View Post
lol apple has made 3 phones and is taking over the world

nokia has made 8957424165743546745 phones and doesnt know what to do
I thought Nokia made 428923978379803107130731123216782187219721798 phones. Hmm.
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2010-05-18 , 14:14
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
I remember reading such messages in this forum, but I'm not sure if it's rebroadcasted anywhere else; especially to the mass of users out there who actually need to get that message in the first place (if what you claimed is true).

If you can point out an official message from Nokia that 'kept stressing that point', it would be really helpful.

I'm really trying to understand the arguments and want to get to the bottom of things.
I'm not gonna try to dig back to 8 months ago to find the pertinent information, but look at the resources Nokia was putting towards PUSH N900 http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/

Meanwhile, Google & Apple had set up funds & competitions to developers that could bring the best in class apps to their platforms

http://code.google.com/android/adc/
http://www.kpcb.com/initiatives/ifund/index.html
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2010-05-18 , 15:59
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Originally Posted by geohsia View Post
Hmm. Long post didn't work. Let's try a short one:

The core issue is false expectations not lack of communication. Nokia shouldn't have to address false expectations set by overly enthusiastic community members.
Now that's where I think we disagree.

I think Nokia should address the expectations of it's community.
 

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2010-05-18 , 16:10
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Originally Posted by phi View Post
I'm not gonna try to dig back to 8 months ago to find the pertinent information, but look at the resources Nokia was putting towards PUSH N900 http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/

Meanwhile, Google & Apple had set up funds & competitions to developers that could bring the best in class apps to their platforms

http://code.google.com/android/adc/
http://www.kpcb.com/initiatives/ifund/index.html
Off Topic

You're correct to say that PUSH was a total failure. Did you see any of the results? They were lame and barely covered in the technical press. Apologies for using the word lame.
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2010-05-18 , 16:25
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#220
Originally Posted by phi View Post
I'm not gonna try to dig back to 8 months ago to find the pertinent information, but look at the resources Nokia was putting towards PUSH N900 http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/

Meanwhile, Google & Apple had set up funds & competitions to developers that could bring the best in class apps to their platforms

http://code.google.com/android/adc/
http://www.kpcb.com/initiatives/ifund/index.html
I'm not sure I'm getting your message here. What I was pointing out was Nokia's message to the mass of potential customers out there, not to their (potential) developers... because those two channels are usually separated. They rarely cross each other.

Of course the messages to the developers community will always be more technical in nature, they will share more of their mid/long term strategies and sometimes more frank. Usually the message to the customers are more seductive in nature, and they don't tell the whole story.
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