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2007-08-10
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#12
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Originally Posted by iball
sounds like a considered response
Ok, I'm just tired of folks whining about that one TINY functionality that was never intended for the device.
Seriously folks, you got microb now, use Google apps or something.
So everyone needs to stop whining about it and actually DO something about it.
Like porting over some of the better open source PIM applications.
For all my PIM needs, my N95 works just fine and syncs contacts and calendar info seamlessly over BT to my Mac.
nice...
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2007-08-10
, 01:24
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@ Lynnwood, WA
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Originally Posted by iball
Nokia has two options. Side with you and ignore those "whiners," or listen to them and work out a solution for the future versions, if not right now. Just curious, how are you using your N800?
Ok, I'm just tired of folks whining about that one TINY functionality that was never intended for the device.
Like porting over some of the better open source PIM applications.
For all my PIM needs, my N95 works just fine and syncs contacts and calendar info seamlessly over BT to my Mac.
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Fedora Core 6 / Nokia N800
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2007-08-10
, 01:38
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Originally Posted by daihard
Reading ebooks, playing games, web browsing, occasional email use, Skype, VoIP, etc. Nothing PIM-related at all. That's what the cell phone and Mac are for.
Nokia has two options. Side with you and ignore those "whiners," or listen to them and work out a solution for the future versions, if not right now. Just curious, how are you using your N800?
Originally Posted by daihard
Neither are the thousands and thousands of Nokia S60/Mac owners. It's built into OS X by default.
Not everyone here is a programmer, in case you're wondering...
Nokia even provides a downloadable N95 iSync plug-in from their website.
I've found syncing the N95 to a Mac to be far easier, faster, and less complicated than doing it in Windows XP/Vista.
And it relatively easy to add new BT devices to it as well. If Nokia decides to push ahead with a PIMP solution I'm sure it will follow the same set of industry standard support their smartphone range does and will sync up with the Mac easily as well.
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2007-08-10
, 02:31
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@ Lynnwood, WA
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Originally Posted by iball
I don't want to pay extra for the data service provided by my cellphone carrier. The beauty of Internet devices like the N800 is to be able to use the existing Wi-Fi to pull information on the Internet. Apparently, this sentiment is shared by a lot of others on this forum, if for different reasons.
Reading ebooks, playing games, web browsing, occasional email use, Skype, VoIP, etc. Nothing PIM-related at all. That's what the cell phone and Mac are for.
Neither are the thousands and thousands of Nokia S60/Mac owners. It's built into OS X by default.
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Fedora Core 6 / Nokia N800
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2007-08-10
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Originally Posted by daihard
It's relevant because after I said my N95 syncs perfectly with my Mac you then said not everyone here is a programmer.
I am not sure why OS X is relevant here. Not everyone is a Mac user. The use of Google Calendar will set you free from any particular OS - that's part of the reason I'd love to be able to sync my GPE-calendar with Google Calendar.
And having a data plan with a cell phone provider or not concerns the PIM functions of a cell phone that syncs with OS X how?
But hey, I understand. You want Nokia to make an E800. Fine.
Perhaps that's what the next 800 "revision" will have when Sprint carries it with Wi-Max capabilities.
Now to address all the "we want real PIM" people:
Looking at the current Maemo roadmap for the N800 through the next two firmware releases, I'm not seeing any emphasis being put on PIM capabilities.
Join the developer mailing list and make that suggestion or get on the bug reports and list it as an "enhancement". Or port/create your own solution.
Posting your complaints here about a lack of PIM functionality in the N800 Internet Tablet isn't going to help get you what you want.
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2007-08-10
, 03:19
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Originally Posted by iball
My comment about not everyone being a programmer was directed at your statement about porting/creating their own applications for the N800.
It's relevant because after I said my N95 syncs perfectly with my Mac you then said not everyone here is a programmer.
Of course, it would be nice if my cellphone carrier (Sprint) had the N95 available. That might even make me consider signing up for the data service, provided that the N95 is Linux-based and has the same flexibility that the N800 enjoys.
But hey, I understand. You want Nokia to make an E800. Fine.
Perhaps that's what the next 800 "revision" will have when Sprint carries it with Wi-Max capabilities.
BTW, I have voiced my opinions on the Bugzilla list regarding the lack of the PIM capability of the N800. I'd also like to work on creating my own solutions, but I just don't have the time. I know, the same old excuse but it's true.
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2007-08-10
, 03:26
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Originally Posted by daihard
Huh? That's now how it looks...go back and re-read your post again.
My comment about not everyone being a programmer was directed at your statement about porting/creating their own applications for the N800.
Originally Posted by daihard
They don't since it's a GSM phone and SPrint isn't a GSM carrier. Too bad for them.
Of course, it would be nice if my cellphone carrier (Sprint) had the N95 available.
Originally Posted by daihard
Why does it have to be Linux-based? You want a Linux-based cell phone, go buy a Neo 1973 off the internet. Oh wait, Sprint doesn't carry it since it's a GSM-only phone.
That might even make me consider signing up for the data service, provided that the N95 is Linux-based and has the same flexibility that the N800 enjoys.
There's TONS of software out there for the N95 (it's S60 3rd Edition, not Linux) and Nokia makes the SDK freely available for folks to roll their own software for it.
And I'd rather have an unlocked N95 on a month-by-month contract than a carrier-branded, locked N95 on a forced 2-year contract.
Makes it easier when one travels across the planet.
Originally Posted by daihard
I doubt it. Sprint is usually years behind the GSM phones in cell phones.
Well if Sprint does have a plan to carry the next-generation Nokia smartphones, I'm by all means very interested in it.
Switch to a GSM provider if you can.
Originally Posted by daihard
Excellent, it's been officially noted to Nokia then.
BTW, I have voiced my opinions on the Bugzilla list regarding the lack of the PIM capability of the N800. I'd also like to work on creating my own solutions, but I just don't have the time. I know, the same old excuse but it's true.
Whether or not they listen and implement is another story.
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2007-08-10
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@ Lynnwood, WA
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Originally Posted by iball
It must be my bad, then. Well, you know my intention now.
Huh? That's now how it looks...go back and re-read your post again.
They don't since it's a GSM phone and SPrint isn't a GSM carrier. Too bad for them.
Why does it have to be Linux-based?
Excellent, it's been officially noted to Nokia then.
Whether or not they listen and implement is another story.
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2007-08-10
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Originally Posted by daihard
I don't get this. If a company with a known history of supporting OSS releases a free-to-download-and-use SDK for a non-Linux operating system, that somehow makes it lesser than the FOSS model?
Because I like Linux and the flexibility the Open Source model provides. Don't get me wrong - I'm not bashing Apple here. I do have a PowerBook myself. I'm just so much into the FOSS movement now, I'd love to have as much around me as possible Linux-based. But hey, it's just me...
Thanks. I sure hope they listen.
Someone even took the S60 3rd Edition SDK and ported the latest version of ScummVM to it! Nothing like having a small cell phone that plays Monkey Island 1-2-3 and Full Throttle.
I'm not seeing Microsoft releasing their Windows Mobile SDKs for "free use".
Gotta pay through the schnozz for those. Same thing with RIM and their Crackberries.
Seriously folks, you got microb now, use Google apps or something.
So everyone needs to stop whining about it and actually DO something about it.
Like porting over some of the better open source PIM applications.
For all my PIM needs, my N95 works just fine and syncs contacts and calendar info seamlessly over BT to my Mac.