Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all? - Page 45 - maemo.org

woody14619 | # 441 | 2010-05-27, 19:29 | Report

Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post

I really think Adobe shot Nokia in the foot by demoing flash on the N900 if Nokia never planned to release it.

Or,... Maybe Adobe was planning to release it in the way they currently do for most other platforms: Users get it from Adobe for the OS you have and install it yourself, via their repository. Maybe they then found a technical or legal "gottcha" in PR1.2 or the licensing from Nokia and are hitting a wall with Nokia.

Given the closed nature of both companies, I'm sure some NDAs were in place, and that most of the development was done on Adobes side. (Thus their ability to show a 10.1 version on their own N900.) It could be any number of things... Which is why I say the best thing to do is show support to Nokia (and Adobe) to get 10.1 on the device. Push them to push each other and it could actually happen.

As for going the bug tracker route, yes, it may or may not work. I can tell you complaining here definitely will not work. To win the lottery, you have to buy a ticket. Same goes here. The bug ticket may not win, but if you don't put it in an get people to vote for it, I can tell you it will definitely not win.... What's the harm in trying?

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gabby131 | # 442 | 2010-05-27, 19:30 | Report

the flash player 10 might not come for the n900 but i hope there will be a browser that supports it in the future!

nosa101 | # 443 | 2010-05-27, 19:31 | Report

Originally Posted by neotalk View Post

but since flash lite 4 works with flash 10.1 would this not do untill the full flash 10.1 is released or even if flash 10.1 does not. At least tvcatchup would work straight from the site....as would the bbciplayer? or am i wrong?

can you view those sites on android devices?

gerbick | # 444 | 2010-05-27, 19:32 | Report

Time will tell if it comes out or not. No official statements from Nokia can be seen as a bad thing.

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devu | # 445 | 2010-05-27, 19:33 | Report

List of companies working together in cooperation to bring Flash 10.1 on mobile platforms

Adobe
AMD
Antena 3
Atlantic Records
ARM
Associated Press
BBC
Burda Digital Systems
CELL
Chunghwa Telecom
Cisco
Comcast
Condé Nast
Daum
Disney Interactive Media Group
EPIX
FOX Mobile Group
Freescale Semiconductor
Google
HTC
Imagination Technologies
Intel
LG Electronics
Lionsgate
Marvell
MIPS Technologies
Motorola
Movial
MTV Networks
NBC Universal
Nokia
NTT DOCOMO
NVIDIA
OpenPeak
OpenTV
Palm
Paramount
PBS
Qualcomm
QNX Software Systems
Research in Motion
RTL Interactive
Sagemcom
Samsung
Sonic Solutions
Sony Ericsson
ST-Ericsson
STMicroelectronics
STERN
Symbian Foundation
Teleca
Texas Instruments
The New York Times
Tomorrow Focus Technologies
Toshiba
Verizon Wireless
Vizio
Wind River
ZiiLABS

List of sponsors for developers who working on some project that could help promote Flash10.1.

Adobe
Nokia

Are you still believe Nokia is not in the loop?

As far As I remember Adobe statement was because of Open Source Project agreement we will provide flash player plug-in to everyone involved equally. There was also something about time to do not make anybody favorite on the market. I don't care who is saying what. I'm as always trying to analyze data from many sources. For me if Flash 10.1 will not come on N900 it will be business decision noting else.
And I feel stupid and naive that I didn't analyze data before I bought this device.

At least non of these decisions are up to us or qole or even his colleague. But I will not change the fact that whatever it was demonstrated in a working example on the N900 was big lie or only promise or even worst, false marketing catch after all. And that made me [choose between s or m]ad.

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gerbick | # 446 | 2010-05-27, 19:34 | Report

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post

Or,... Maybe Adobe was planning to release it in the way they currently do for most other platforms: Users get it from Adobe for the OS you have and install it yourself, via their repository. Maybe they then found a technical or legal "gottcha" in PR1.2 or the licensing from Nokia and are hitting a wall with Nokia.

That's even more speculation. Why can't somebody from Nokia just issue a clear statement?

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Texrat | # 447 | 2010-05-27, 19:34 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

Time will tell if it comes out or not. No official statements from Nokia can be seen as a bad thing.

That's my single biggest problem with the company: long, dead silences between (usually discouraging) announcements.

Bleah.

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theflew | # 448 | 2010-05-27, 19:35 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

I'll go with what is known...

Flash Player 10.1 for Android signup. There isn't one for Maemo.

An OS list that has the following:

No comment about Maemo at all.

That's all I do know.

You're not going to see an Adobe signup because it would be replacing an official version that was provided by Nokia. Nokia would be the only one to release 10.1 to replace the 9.X version included with the N900. Android had nothing to replace so for Android it's just an app to download. I imagine with MeeGo being open source Adobe could provide a download.

Texrat | # 449 | 2010-05-27, 19:37 | Report

Originally Posted by devu View Post

Are you still believe Nokia is not on the loop?

Hang on devu-- big difference between being "in the loop" (ie, sponsorship, partnership, etc) and having final control.

I'm not saying Nokia doesn't, either. I'm saying that the statements here claiming "it can only be Nokia's refusal" are logically flawed until we hear something conclusive.

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gerbick | # 450 | 2010-05-27, 19:37 | Report

Originally Posted by theflew View Post

You're not going to see an Adobe signup because it would be replacing an official version that was provided by Nokia. Nokia would be the only one to release 10.1 to replace the 9.X version included with the N900. Android had nothing to replace so for Android it's just an app to download. I imagine with MeeGo being open source Adobe could provide a download.

That makes a lot of sense; especially where the only way to get it back would be to reflash.

However, the lack of statement one way or the either from Nokia is leading to more speculation by all parties involved in this predicament.