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2010-06-05 , 19:32
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yet another article to prove my father's point that journalists are people who couldn't get any other jobs because they have no qualification whatsoever. (he also says that those who still cannot get a job as a journalist become soldiers.)
You're too old to be my son, but I have been known to express the same feelings
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2010-06-05 , 19:36
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I could video call using my old N73, but I never used it. Too expensive.
Video calling over 3G was free a few years back in some European countries, and I have used it occasionally. It uses a dedicated channel which is different from the data channel, so it doesn't need to be expensive. I guess just another example of the greed of US telcos...

What I have been waiting for since 2007 is a direct connection between video calls and video chat (as defined earlier in this thread)...
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2010-06-05 , 19:48
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video calling has been around for years,

I've been making them since the nokia 6680 that was in 2005. 5 years ago.

Its very expensive though. around 50p a min and I've yet to find a network that includeds them in your monthly plan.
 

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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
yet another article to prove my father's point that journalists are people who couldn't get any other jobs because they have no qualification whatsoever. (he also says that those who still cannot get a job as a journalist become soldiers.)
Chances are that article was essentially already written by a marketing department, a lot of so-called news these days comes straight from PR firms. Additionally, it seems a significant chunk of so-called journalists are too lazy to fact check the press releases they come across, especially if it's not a field they're experienced in.

For an example of the power of a legit looking media release to fool journalists, check out this New Scientist blog post: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives...ns_you_say.php in which they analyse an organisation which is essentially selling homeopathy (a scam by any definition) by dressing it up with a veneer of biotechnology. This company is featuring in an upcoming CNBC show.

Now as far as I'm aware, the LA Times is not internationally renowned as a tech publication, chances are Mr Colker is just doing what any good journalist does - write what someone asks him to write.
 

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Did those idiots forget about the N900? It was first..!
 

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Did those idiots forget about the N900? It was first..!
The N900 was far from first. Video calling was available in Nokia phones since 2005.
 

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octrotalk had video chat feature for numerous platforms for years, at least it worked on WM and symbian 9.
 
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what about n900? it is a usa phone and it does video chat?
The N900 is not a phone, it's an internet tablet.


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The N900 is not a phone, it's an internet tablet.


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Wait, n900's use of open (source|standard|architecture) means it can assume the correct (shape|form factor|semantic) depending on the circumstances
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By US Phone, the author simply is implying a phone released by a US carrier. Simple as that. If a phone is not released by a US carrier, it is considered "from overseas" and therefore not a US phone.

Conversation goes like this: What phone is that? It is a Nokia N900. Who is it with? It isn't with any company, you have to order it direct......

Conversation is OVER when you say that it is not with T-Mobile, ATT, Sprint or Verizon. US customers do not care if it can be used with a carrier, only if it is FROM a US carrier, otherwise it is not a US phone and US journalist see it the same way.

Oh well, all I know is that I made video chat/call/whatever on my N82 years ago
 

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