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    gerbick | # 141 | 2010-06-07, 21:02 | Report

    Enough of the bitterness... this thread has about 10 pages of healthy conversation.

    Seriously, it's not about much more than... comparing one to the other. I think it's a horribly moot point because the N900 is not Nokia's future. The iPhone is definitely Apple's future. Comparisons between the generations of phones (this gen vs. last gen) are inevitable... but honestly I'd prefer same for same.

    So what is Nokia's future? MeeGo. And so far, the scant few paragraphs about the OS is all that folks have to compare to so far. I think that MeeGo/Intel/Nokia needs to take the time to talk about their product - not as a comparison, but as an educational method to explain what their goals are, what they will/will not deliver, and above all... why MeeGo is good for them.

    No more lofty marketing speak. Detail what it is, how it affects the average consumer - the hard core users will be there regardless - and push a platform like they've never done before.

    They need interesting and engaging evangelists and Nokia needs to do something they've not done in a while - be forthcoming with what is coming. And keep those lines of communication open.

    This place doesn't need those evangelists - iTT (I mean TMO) is quite informed already. It's the masses that go "ooh" and "ahh" that need to know that something else is coming down the pipe from other vendors.

    Not everybody is eligible to purchase an iPhone at lesser prices (subsidized) and most will be later in the year. Nokia needs to take advantage of that.

    Hire a street team. Get the message(s) out there. Show some stuff - even if it's "beta" and push it out there. Let Arstechnica - they are in-depth and unbiased - among other places see your stuff. Say it's a work in progress. Hit up EETimes and let Intel show stuff off.

    But damn. Do something Nokia.

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    kojacker | # 142 | 2010-06-07, 21:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by ysss View Post
    Yea, they made some good ad for FaceTime:

    http://www.apple.com/iphone/features...facetime-video
    Well, Apple went and got the famous Hollywood director Sam Mendes to make it for them. And it works great.

    If it was MeeGo, they'd have sent TexRat out with a Flip video camcorder to make it for them

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    mrojas | # 143 | 2010-06-07, 21:07 | Report

    I agree with you Gerbick, except on the part of showing the work in progress. Because any glitch is going to mercilessly slammed and ripped by the average ignorant blogger. I would rather wait for them to have a full, end-user ready device to show.

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    PradaBrada | # 144 | 2010-06-07, 21:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by kojacker View Post
    Well, Apple went and got the famous Hollywood director Sam Mendes to make it for them. And it works great.
    Indeed

    Originally Posted by kojacker View Post
    If it was MeeGo, they'd have sent TexRat out with a Flip video camcorder to make it for them
    LMFAO :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

    So true

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    mece | # 145 | 2010-06-07, 21:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
    Here's some features N900 have, but not not quite usable in real world

    - FM transmitter, never managed to work even with booster. I'm in a very dense populated area
    - video out. Huge black borders and horrible quality on a digital LCD TV
    - font facing camera, quality is just barely passable, like a laptop camera from the 90's
    - video recording, jerky and misses frames
    - removable battery. It has to be removable because of the very poor battery life when using 3G (wifi is OK)

    At least Apple releases features that actually work and are usable out of the box
    wait a minute. I use fm transmitter every day and record lots of video and use video out very often. All these features work perfectly. I happen to have a tv that knows how to scale composite though.

    Anyway, ip 4 looks beautiful. very cool hardware. I hope to see something similar running linux.

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    x61 | # 146 | 2010-06-07, 21:10 | Report

    Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
    I hope everyone b*tching about Nokia and singing Apple's praises makes a quick exit. It'll quiet down these forums a lot.
    Only if I can find a buyer for mine...

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    nosa101 | # 147 | 2010-06-07, 21:12 | Report

    Sometimes I wonder why Nokia can't makke that one phone and then call it a day. I understand the need to satisfy various markets but why must there be multiple "flagships".

    Why can't one device have the best camera, OS, processor, design and whatnot that Nokia has to offer.

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    imperiallight | # 148 | 2010-06-07, 21:15 | Report

    We should have a N900 successor feature wish list thread.

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    bugelrex | # 149 | 2010-06-07, 21:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by nosa101 View Post
    Sometimes I wonder why Nokia can't makke that one phone and then call it a day. I understand the need to satisfy various markets but why must there be multiple "flagships".

    Why can't one device have the best camera, OS, processor, design and whatnot that Nokia has to offer.
    Could be internal company politics. Too many lifers want to hold on to their ".director/management" titles and will fight for their ownership to the detriment of the entire company.

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    Enyibinakata | # 150 | 2010-06-07, 21:17 | Report

    Please does anyone know when the dual sim nokia phone will be released? thanks

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