I am with you

leaving nokia for life if no flash 10.1? okay bye bye guess we will see you in few years

My English is rubbish, I know that, but I double checked English dictionary. And there is big difference between "recommended", "minimum" and "at least" .

I must say though. Apple's Hitler-ness is sometimes for good cause. I was watching this keynote where he was talking about no private APIs to prevent apps from breaking. That sounded actually reasonable.

Everytime a new Maemo came out, you had to re-package the apps all over again. Paaaaain. Hell, between upgrades of the Same Maemo 5 I've had many apps that broke on me.

Flash wins on the n900. But leaving out the 720p video capture and faster processor as a positive on the iPhone is unfair.

so it really comes down to the consumer's choice.

Yes I'm having it on my GF N97. Works over wi-fi with noticeable quality los. For flash games.. respond time is not acceptable. Over 3GP useless. It's good way around to watch the movie content. But again, network vs computing power.
But this is nothing else like stream tube. I have tones of data collected on Flaemo and I can even tell you what machines they using on the server side to render the content . The funny thing is they streaming far to big content regarding to your mobile device screen. At least you can remotely connect to your PC/MAC from N900, and will get much more than skyfire. I would rather prefer this way, that someone here could improve/develop remote desktop solution. The 2 I know are limited and restricted to much

BTW: Try to explain to Vodafone users in UK that why instead of loading 50kb swf file they need to constantly steam it via network

Try to improve Operators infrastructure as well...

At the end flash will die out... its a lost project anyway.

Nokia promised us the web with the n900, but half of the content is not supported.

Flash is stuttering and video isnt playing how its supposed too. the n900 is too glitchy and slow to keep up with the new features. And all nokia is saying sorry we are not going to support that. (to busy making a new phone)

Why should there be thousands of work arounds on the n900?? why isn't it "just working"?

Maybe a far more interesting question would be, will n900 have full HTML5 support? Youtube is allready starting to stream its video's on HTML5 if you choose for it.

I think youtube is one of the biggest out there that uses flash and even they are getting rid of flash eventually...

There is a 1% chance that nokia allready saw this comming and instead of supporting the CPU and battery hungry flash they choose to support HTML5. Or maybe they dont give a damn about us and wont support any future platforms.... i think ill go with the last one on this.

Instead of making software to support new features, nokia makes a new phone that supports part of it. "oh you want full support? well in a few months a new phone will come supporting this. It only costs 600 dollars"

People are not gonna buy new phones every 3 months. they want descent support for atleast the 2 years they gonna use this phone.

Its always the same with nokia. and thats why this was my last one... im really sorry to say.. but i lost faith in nokia after the 3rd stab in the back.

Maybe they better start making rubber and paper again...

The n900 will definitely support HTML5 videos via Firefox Mobile in the future.

sygys,
That´s lame. Try harder! Really. More generalizations and out of blue statistics please.

No, the problem is not the N900, but that the Flash-Plugin is NOT hardware accelerated. And that's why we expect Nokia to "give us" 10.1 - because it will be hardware-accelerated on mobile platforms, too.

lol - when it comes down to it the only "excuse" thats realistic is Nokia doesnt want to spend the $$$ because they think doing so will not generate a good return. I dont buy the n900 doesnt fulfil hardware requirements of flash 10, thats just a furphy.

i.e. they dont give a **** because they think n900 users will forgive and forget and fall for it again next time again

based on n7xx and n8xx, maybe thats not a bad call.