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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
The problem with Apple TV is that downloadable content is limited and it uses Apple-preferred video codecs and is heavily dependent on iTunes. TV/Film content is extremely lacking in many regions, and even where there is a selection it's still pretty limited. Unlike with music, video download services are still quite immature/limited and until Apple supports a wider variety of codecs natively (I believe more codecs can be added using various hacks) I don't think the Apple TV will appeal to a wide cross section of the buying public. I want High Def support, DivX/XviD, ISO/VOB and UPnP support - something like the PixelMagic would suit me down to the ground. The lack of iTunes/downloadable support isn't an issue as iTunes UK only offers trailers and some American content such as Sponge Bob Square Pants, South Park and a few British shows for almost £2 a throw - no thanks!

This problems with the Apple TV are being caused largely by the lack of content and Apples desire to lock you into their platform.
Apple wanting to lock you into their platform is enough of a reason to stay away.

In the meantime, I've got two Xboxes with the Xbox Media Center streaming 3.5TB of stuff with just about every codec under the sun and able to do so much more.

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#52
There is some irony in the way Apple TV is (not) progressing, but it still doesn't change the fact that Apple fully understand their iPod market and have it well under control. Which is more than can be said for Nokia with Internet Tablets.



Edit: Fixup the vbcode...

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There's multiple instances of irony in your post, Mil. I was referring to the closed nature of the service.

On a more sober note, it continues to be silly for anyone to draw direct comparisons between iPods and the larger, broader-purposed tablets. Even sillier to (as some have done) compare iPods and Nokia's highly (globally) successful phones.

Apple deserves their due, no doubt. But that doesn't alter the fact that the recent gushing over their highly-controlled, low-SKU, mostly-closed product line is fine within certain contexts but absolutely ludicrous when used to compare iPods/iPhones one-to-one against the offerings of Nokia (or Samsung, or Sony-Ericsson, or Motorola, or LG...) at the present. Apple's approach to the entertainment and communications market are so narrowly-defined, so unique that in order to distill offerings down into the soundbite comparisons made here the past few days one must willfully blind one's self to the myriad critical differences between not only the products involved but also between Apple's and Nokia's present business models. Now, those models are definitely changing and moving closer toward each other to be sure, but the glorious Apple outcomes being spouted as fact are actually prognostications nonetheless, giddy predictions borne more of bandwagon enthusiasm than history and current fact.

It's great that Apple has successfully carved such a niche, and has the *potential* to significantly expand that business, but let's withdraw from the nitrous oxide clouds for a second and get reacquainted with reality. Apple's consistent ability to SUSTAIN recent advents is still unproven (Newton, anyone? Appletalk?), and Nokia isn't going to just wither away simply because a new iPod model came out. Seriously. Waiter-- reality check, please!

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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
You must live in a very rich neighborhood then. I've never met a single person that's bought one, even the Apple freaks here in the office won't touch it.
I live in an uber-rich neighborhood and I've yet to see anyone in all of Kansas City with an iPhone.
Even at all the "trendy" bars/clubs, never saw a one.
Of course, that was before the price drop, so it might "catch on".
I'm laughing at Apple right now for disabling the ability to add calendar info on the Touch itself. It can only display entires, no adds allowed.
And I'm REALLY laughing at all the so-called "business people" with an iPhone in the comments sections on certain blogs babbling on and on how important "business" is for them.
They haven't figured out yet that they bought the wrong phone.
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O Crackberry, how soon we have forgotten thee!
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
O Crackberry, how soon we have forgotten thee!
If it wasn't for the U.S. Government and their TONS of Crackberry purchases, RIM wouldn't be doing as well as they have been.
Did you know that the RIM Crackberry is the ONLY handheld email device approved by the DoD for use with PKI encryption/decryption smartcards?
Literally, thousands and thousands of smartcard sleds (both bluetooth and attached) and Crackberries have been sold to the Army alone.
Sigh. If only Nokia would come up with a solution like that...I'd rather have an E61i than a Crackberry. It would also remove the dependancy on RIm's Crackberry for Exchange server requirement within an organization.
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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
You must live in a very rich neighborhood then. I've never met a single person that's bought one, even the Apple freaks here in the office won't touch it.
I wouldn't call it a rich neighborhood. We do have a pretty big mac following around here though. Our schools are about 95% macs. The rest is linux and windows, in that order. Pretty much all my friends are computer geeks though, so that might have something to do with it.
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The new iPod screen is a half inch smaller. For screens this small, that is a critical fault for browsing and reading web pages, which is the reason why I bought my N800. If anything, I would have wanted a larger screen, say 6", instead of the 4" on my tablet. If they can get one of these E-readers, with a capacious screen, to have a good Wi-Fi capability, then I might think my N800 is behind the curve. As it is, it has a superb browser, good reception, and it rests on one of the best SW platforms. You can't do better than this anywhere- it's a superb device and i recommend it to anyone who must have Web connectivity.
 
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The following picture has confirmed for me that Nokia is doomed.



Why the phuck does OPK need not one giant lapel microphone but TWO?
No one figured out how to split the single source into multiple outputs on the BACK-END and not on the person himself?
Think about it....if they can't get these small, tiny-yet-in-front-of-the-world details right how the hell can they get the really complex stff right?
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