Thank you for throwing a perfectly working device in the nearest landfill (or having it "recycled" somewhere).
I'm also guilty of this, but at least I try to use my devices for many years.

I keep my old phones (and computers)as back-up or sell them, I don't throw them away.

Anyway, what's the point in having another Android phone? Diversity is a good thing isn't it? Nokia can still sell good phones and provide a solid platform for us even though it isn't the biggest player in the segment (just like Linux in the desktop, it isn't any worse just because it's got a few percent of the market).

Jeez, every 18 months? I tend to hold onto mine for a few years.

From announcement to today, it's over 24 months. From release to today, it's 20 months. That's more than 18 months and yes... you appear to be splitting hairs.

Motorola internally had no real scalable smartphone OS. Samsung has Bada - which is still coming. Big difference there.

Motorola had played with the concept of going to Linux - I swear their A1200 Ming was Linux based (don't quote me) but it never got released outside of Asia from my understanding.

Motorola dug their way out of their hole mainly by doing marketing right. The Droid is only an mediocre phone.

Motorola had a series of Linux based 'smartphones' back then... I've had the E680 and A760, both were utter shite even for the period. They must be ecstatic with the Android after those long periods of failed effort to 'make use of Linux'.

(I didn't know about the Ming, I thought they'd shelf their linux effort after the early craps).

Yeah... Ming and even the RAZR V3X and above were supposed to get a new Linux based OS, and it... well they sucked something fierce. I remember the E680, and I remember the nice hole in the wall it made by one of my (then) clients because it would interrupt phone calls at its own leisure.

That... was a funny day.

yeah... the market is.... funny...

What do you guys make of this:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...tablet-market/

Well, they gave customers what they wanted. I would disagree with your mediocrity statement--the Droid is a GREAT phone, works VERY well as a phone for me. It's a mediocre computer--but even that seems to be getting better with the 3.0 being bandied about. The N900, by contrast, is an excellent little computer but an incredibly poor phone.

Personally, I rather like Android, but then I had rather liked Maemo quite a lot until I had to deal with Nokia for support.

That's the other element that nobody's mentioning, though. Motorola and Verizon (even with their notorious record) provide far superior support of their customers than Nokia ever does. Apple, for all the issues you want to point out, have a physical presence dotted all throughout the country. STORES with actual representatives you can talk to and they answer questions and help you with getting repairs, even if it costs you through the nose to get them repaired. But! At least you GET customer service. Nokia isn't even willing to take our money to provide support.

I know this is veering far from the original topic, but when you compare Nokia to Motorola and how Motorola pulled themselves back up through marketing, keep in mind that Motorola may have also managed to do it by not sacrificing customer support and accessorizing. People want options--even if it costs money.

few years?!?

I barely can wait 12 months if there are better devices available...