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2010-07-26
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could more possible exciting news be Ovi Browser coming for Maemo and Meego?
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/07/2...in-the-making/
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/07/2...in-the-making/
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2010-07-26
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I had raw output from my N82, nearly two years ago
I'm inclined to say yes. OmniVision had introduced a sensor earlier this year, but I've not seen mention of it since. I thought the Viewty or Samsung Pixon 8800 had supported it, but so far it looks like I was wrong there.
But I'd have to do more research before I answer definitively.
http://thesymbianblog.com/2008/03/21...om-your-nokia/
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2010-07-26
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Originally Posted by danramos
Err... No, not even close. As you say, JPEG is an image containing 8bit RGB pixels, with all of the camera's postprocessing functions applied. RAW is a heap of data read from the sensor. The EXIF doesn't help you as you cannot (without deteriorating it) un-sharpen the image, un-apply the noise reduction, change color space/WB, change the demosaicing algorithm, etc. Not sure about the N900's sensor, but P&S/DSLRs even have a different sensor bit depth (10, 12 or even 14 bit pixels) which is also lost on conversion to JPEG. And the fact these are on a phone matters actually quite a bit, since usually you can't actually SET any of these parameters, and the default settings are all too eager to oversaturate, oversharpen and over-noise-reduce in order to please average Joe. And of course those algos have no super-fancy hardware like the DIGIC or EXPEED ASICs so there is always a balance between quality and speed (I'm not making this up - on one of the Summit talks a Nokian actually said that they managed to get far better pictures quality-wise, but then the processing time would be 10-20-30 seconds per picture and they opted for the quicker one).
JPEG doesn't "bake those in" any more than TIFF, DNG or RAW. Once you have the image and you begin to process the image, ALL the data is just as malleable and useful as anything RAW gives you. Hell, JPEG even borrows a page out of TIFF and records a lot of that in the EXIF metadata. RAW isn't a format. It's just a proprietary aperture dump. Putting it into a 100% quality JPEG with EXIF metadata would record most of the same information (ALL of the info, if you use the MakerNote tag in the EXIF metadata) with pretty decent quality and it would at least work everywhere.
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2010-07-26
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I noticed the titan special version is 1.0.5-1, whilst the latest in repo is 1.0.5-2 -- for now assuming I need to stick with 1.0.5-1 ?
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2010-07-26
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Originally Posted by optimistprime
imo a browser is dumb thing that nokia should be working on.
could more possible exciting news be Ovi Browser coming for Maemo and Meego?
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/07/2...in-the-making/
there is nothing wrong with microb and firefox/fennec. they are already two of the better browsers for mobile os.
even opera seems to be making headway with opera for maemo/meego
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2010-07-27
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Originally Posted by bxbomber
Unless it has flash 10 (for maemo)....I agree with everything you said but just couldn't help it...lol
imo a browser is dumb thing that nokia should be working on.
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2010-07-27
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Originally Posted by planetf1
yes - you better do so; btw - you can not install 1.0.5-2 with Titan's v37 kernel installed...
I noticed the titan special version is 1.0.5-1, whilst the latest in repo is 1.0.5-2 -- for now assuming I need to stick with 1.0.5-1 ?
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2010-07-27
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a video driver that support vsync?
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2010-07-27
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Originally Posted by attila77
The first part is true, but you could save a JPEG without the post-processing functions applied, couldn't you? You would lose some of the color-depth, but there would hardly be any artifacts, and it is indeed a lot more practical than the RAW output.
Err... No, not even close. As you say, JPEG is an image containing 8bit RGB pixels, with all of the camera's postprocessing functions applied. [...]
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But I'd have to do more research before I answer definitively.