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Originally Posted by danramos
I've only owned three Nokia products (n800, some random dumb phone I got when I switched over to T-Mobile when Nokia screwed up the N900 launch, and the N900). Nokia's customer support and handling of Maemo has pretty much guaranteed I will never buy another Nokia device again. I'm hoping that other manufacturers will join in on Meego, since I love what I can do with the operating system and the hardware itself. Just not the company supporting it. At this point I'm more likely to buy an iPad from Apple than a Meego tablet from Nokia simply because I don't want to touch it if Nokia is responsible for the customer support. And that's not including the OS, or buggy software. It's just basic level hardware support!
This is what I've been touting ever since I got my Droid. I was abused so much by Nokia during the years I've owned Nokia stuff, that it was like a breath of fresh air to deal with Verizon (who doesn't have the greatest record of satisfying customers, mind you) and Amazon (who realy DID treat me very, very well in exactly the way you describe!).
Nokia has been an incredible lesson to me of how a company or merchant should NEVER treat customers. If I ever run a business, I'm going to absolutely keep that experience close to heart and make sure my brand stays close to my customers' hearts.
I think it also said open-source, Maemo and a few other things that may or may not be relevant. From the sound of it, the N900 will be a much better Android phone than Maemo. Aw well.
And on the Maemo, Android note. I don't think Maemo was really ever suited to be a phone OS and I've always treated Maemo on the N900 like I did Maemo on the n800. My own personal hope (if dj_steve and everyone gets it to that point) is to use Maemo for computer operations and Android for smartphone operations.
Originally Posted by YoDude
I think marketing is a huge problem with the N900. It is not suited to be a consumer device. I disagree with the Step 4 of 5. It's more like Step 2 or 3 to me. They badly need to do what Ubuntu did to make Linux desktop operating systems more user friendly before they even consider trying to marketing Meego. And that's not just OS interaction, it's everything. Things that Apple has figured out from close to the get go and Google is well on their way to figure out. There's not much of an excuse not to implement it well, others have already experimented. You just have to copy and improve on it. For example, making the Ovi Store more like Microsoft's XBOX LIVE marketplace.
I don't use twitter or Facebook either.
Why don't you ask him something he could answer:
In the past, many of the customer expectations and disappointments with the N900 seemed to be a result of Nokia marketing's lack of even a fundamental understanding of the Maemo OS.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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Twitter users just a reminder for you the propose of this thread 
5 August between 6-7pm GMT (10-11am PDT, 1-2pm EDT)
5 August between 6-7pm GMT (10-11am PDT, 1-2pm EDT)
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The quieter you become the more you are able to hear
"I'm a N900 user, can I haz Flash 10 plz?!11!?"
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2010-08-05
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Oh sorry, you must be from Oxford University, what if we talk in Spanish, which is my mother tongue...
maybe you should write in a such way that the point is clear and there are no factual mistakes in the text?
e: and you don't know how to visit www.sygic.com with your browser?
Why would I have to pay to Sygic for a Navigation system, look at promo videos from nokia and you can see they tout the stupid navigation for the N900, it's incoherent from them not to have a decent OVI MAPS in the N900.
Same with PBAP IrMc SyncML, they are showcasing the TERMINAL mode in a VW car and you can't use a symbian or maemo phone with their cars.
same with the GENIVI Nokia is part of thar organization and they don't support basic protocols from BT
and I've owned nokia since 1999 with the 8265, and the N900 wont be my last phone, but they should keep this crap to a minimum
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Reading many of the questions on here, and the vast majority are quite detailed, with arguments etc - but they won't dont fit on twitter (140 chars max). I wonder if that was the reason Nokia decided to do this Q&A on twitter?!? Hmmm... 
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Originally Posted by quipper8
So what you're saying is that they should stick with what they are good at (making hardware) and use a maps app from someone who knows how to make a decent maps app?
actually nokia is the only phone MANUFACTURER that owns and supplies its own phones with maps and navigation software, a nice bonus.
the rest have to resort to third part services like google maps or pay software.
maemo is obviously not feature complete, including maps, but i am sure the maps team is working on getting maps more functional on meego.
Oh noes, google maps is sooo horrible.. (sarcasm..)
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Originally Posted by ikirk
Twitter is a notoriously bad vehicle for ranting. That's one advantage
Reading many of the questions on here, and the vast majority are quite detailed, with arguments etc - but they won't dont fit on twitter (140 chars max). I wonder if that was the reason Nokia decided to do this Q&A on twitter?!? Hmmm...
@leviathan18: It's not incoherent, Ovi Maps was originally written for Symbian, it takes time until the whole thing gets rewritten with Qt for the next version, which can then be utilized on the N900.
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Sigh, my long battle not to join twitter has come to an end.
I hope this is worth it.
I hope this is worth it.
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Originally Posted by attila77
Yes Ovi maps was written for symbian, but answer me this, how long do you think nokia took to make maemo 5 ? 1 month 3 month 6 months 9 month 1 year ?
Twitter is a notoriously bad vehicle for ranting. That's one advantage
@leviathan18: It's not incoherent, Ovi Maps was originally written for Symbian, it takes time until the whole thing gets rewritten with Qt for the next version, which can then be utilized on the N900.
In that time they had the resources to port a decent version of ovi maps, because everything they did was a very good job, except for OVI maps and the OVI store, but conversations is a wonderful app.
And if they were somewhat smart, since they knew their future was QT which I think they have known this for some time, they should have allocated a team to port maps to QT (for maemo, hartman now meego, symbian 3 and symbian 4)
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My questions are no longer showing up, seems who ever is at the keyboard has blocked me.
I bet Niklas is in a different country with no computer in sight and is talking to someone on the phone who is picking the questions for him.
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I bet Niklas is in a different country with no computer in sight and is talking to someone on the phone who is picking the questions for him.
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the rest have to resort to third part services like google maps or pay software.
maemo is obviously not feature complete, including maps, but i am sure the maps team is working on getting maps more functional on meego.