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2010-08-10 , 02:31
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I thought the N8 will have 48GB of memory and 720p HD recording?
At least from a video I saw yesterday on youtube.

Regardless of that, I have no interest in a symbian based phone, whatever the hardware specs.
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2010-08-10 , 07:04
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Originally Posted by dscobsct View Post
symbian is by far the most feature rich and versatile phone platform there is, its the outdated ui and underpowered devices it has been put on the last couple of years that is the problem, all of which is being rectified.
What exactly does 'feature rich' and 'versatile' mean? Seriously.

What benefit does Symbian have over Maemo? I'm all ears because really, I can't even think of one. You have to pay to develop applications on the platform, you have to pay to release your SIS file to the world - platform security implements a caged directory structure so that your application has no outside contact - No dbus for ease of communication between random applications. All in all a myriad of negatives.

Sure your average symbian phone tends to just work straight out of the box, though to me they feel more like a kitchen appliance. They do what they do pretty well, but beyond this you are required to pay for added features.

I loved symbian until I used the N900. I can never imagine myself going back.
 
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2010-08-10 , 08:45
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Originally Posted by dchky View Post
What exactly does 'feature rich' and 'versatile' mean? Seriously.

What benefit does Symbian have over Maemo? I'm all ears because really, I can't even think of one. You have to pay to develop applications on the platform, you have to pay to release your SIS file to the world - platform security implements a caged directory structure so that your application has no outside contact - No dbus for ease of communication between random applications. All in all a myriad of negatives.

Sure your average symbian phone tends to just work straight out of the box, though to me they feel more like a kitchen appliance. They do what they do pretty well, but beyond this you are required to pay for added features.

I loved symbian until I used the N900. I can never imagine myself going back.
please tell me where i said symbian had any benifits over maemo? maemo is a desktop class operating system, open and made for tables, and are not comparable, and if you want to compare the phone functionality symbian wins hands down.
the caged directories and closed environment you talk about are a security feature! and its been dam hard to brake over the years.
now compared to android, ios and blackberry os, symbian is the most versatile and feature rich.
you have been able to do things on the symbian platform for ever that these other phone operating systems have been trying to add to this day.
whereas they make a great looking interface and then try to figure out how to make it do things, symbian is the other way round.
i have been using a symbian phone as my portable computer in my pocket for 8 years and it has done the job extremely well.
nokia that are the ones who have destroyed symbians reputation with thier poor decisions over the last couple of years, and they still sell 300000 symbian handsets every day so they aint doing that bad.
dont beleive the media which is mostly made up of us based blogs when it comes to symbian,they just jump on the bandwagon knocking it with no real understanding.
and as for the n8, its a lovely device, decent specs at low price point, its not meant to be in competition with the n900 in any way whatsoever, i might be sounding like a defender here lol but believe me im not, it just bugs me when people say that the symbian platform is crap because they have had a poor experience with a nokia device. i truly hope nokia dont muck it up like they have done the last few years, but with the bulk of thier truly massive move to QT over now they should have more recourses at hand to get it right from now on.
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2010-08-11 , 20:02
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Originally Posted by dscobsct View Post
please tell me where i said symbian had any benifits over maemo? maemo is a desktop class operating system, open and made for tables, and are not comparable, and if you want to compare the phone functionality symbian wins hands down.
the caged directories and closed environment you talk about are a security feature! and its been dam hard to brake over the years.
now compared to android, ios and blackberry os, symbian is the most versatile and feature rich.
you have been able to do things on the symbian platform for ever that these other phone operating systems have been trying to add to this day.
whereas they make a great looking interface and then try to figure out how to make it do things, symbian is the other way round.
i have been using a symbian phone as my portable computer in my pocket for 8 years and it has done the job extremely well.
nokia that are the ones who have destroyed symbians reputation with thier poor decisions over the last couple of years, and they still sell 300000 symbian handsets every day so they aint doing that bad.
dont beleive the media which is mostly made up of us based blogs when it comes to symbian,they just jump on the bandwagon knocking it with no real understanding.
and as for the n8, its a lovely device, decent specs at low price point, its not meant to be in competition with the n900 in any way whatsoever, i might be sounding like a defender here lol but believe me im not, it just bugs me when people say that the symbian platform is crap because they have had a poor experience with a nokia device. i truly hope nokia dont muck it up like they have done the last few years, but with the bulk of thier truly massive move to QT over now they should have more recourses at hand to get it right from now on.
So I've read what you've written. I've sat here and though about it. I completely disagree with everything you've written. Symbian is crap. Its not just the UI, its everything dchky said and more.

Security Features? Phah.

It was a pretty good OS in the days of crappy Motorola Razors and before. Its not improved at all since S60 3rd Edition Fp2. The fact that THAT is its name only damns it more.

Nokia's made some excellent hardware, but its always been Symbian dragging it down.

As far as Qt goes, its an EXCELLENT initiative. Its Meego that will drive it though, not Symbian. In fact I can quite clearly picture Symbian dragging down Qt adoption to the point that all we have are crappy lowest denominator (Symbian) apps.

Anyway, you have your opinion, I have mine. No point in arguing about it since we aren't going to change each other's minds.
 
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Originally Posted by dscobsct View Post
please tell me where i said symbian had any benifits over maemo?
More apps and better Ovi Store integration. That's all I got.

I don't like Symbian, never have. Maemo... I do like. A lot.

Hey, that rhymed!
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2010-08-12 , 05:33
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Know what's frustrating?

A team of 5 really good kernel hackers could port Maemo to the N8 in a couple weeks.
 
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