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Kernel image anyone??? Can someone PM me the new kernel image please???
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My understanding is the only thing that changed was the kernel, is this not the case??
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I just stuck the new kernel on, and it seems OK so far - booted fine, got WiFi etc.
Indeed, repositories being sometimes unavailable are not the app manager's fault (but should we need so many ?...). OTOH, it could and should be much easier to enable/disable them as needed without painstakingly editing them one by one through that tiny list window that looks like it was designed by Torquemada...
Also, you'd think that instead of the three lone, useless and disabled buttons making up the tool bar on the app's main screen, there could be shortcuts for useful functions available only from submenus : install package from file, refresh package list, show installer log, manage repos...
Apart from these ergonomics 101 basics, the app manager *does* have an unfortunate tendency to end up in a sort of limbo where it doesn't really work anymore as far as installing and uninstalling are concerned. I suspect many users just shrug it off and take advantage of the next firmware update to flash the problem away ; others use black-magic commands in xterm to straighten it up, using one after another gleaned in the forums until one works.
In either case it's not the fault of the repos, and not the user's (happens even without tinkering with Red pill mode or command line dpkg or whatever). It's just that the app is not as robust and reliable as we usually expect a package manager to be : and that is, huh... looking for the appropriate word here... well, yes, crappy.
In this sense I understand Karel's misgivings about relying on this tool to manage entire OS life cycles from Chinook onwards, like we do on desktops and servers, without the recurrent "clean sheet" firmware flashing we've had till now (no matter how much we hate 'em), and without assurance that it's been (being ?) *seriously* upgraded...