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2010-09-02 , 16:43
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I'm in on Ykho's point of view. I am interested in technological progression, so reading about what companies, other than Nokia, are doing is something I do. What I do get tired of is the amount of bashing and pissing competition.

I made my choice for a Nokia machine I really enjoy lots. I don't have a desire to mock people's choice for a competitors make.

nokia sucks thats for sure, they make a big fuss about their new handset and as soon as it is released they forget about it and start telling people buy the new one.
Although I tend to agree with the fact that Nokia does a lousy job supporting it's customers, the big fuss has passed me by without me ever knowing it. In the Netherlands where I lived last winter, it was only tech-people who even knew about it. And here in Spain, where I bought my machine, the people in the Vodafone shop didn't even know they sell the machine. Out of curiosity I asked the Vodafone girl how many devices they had sold, and mine was the second one since it came out. In short: Not so much fuss, but plenty of reason to be less than appreciative at Nokia. That being said: This is a linux-device, meaning a lot of things will have to be fixed by the user itself. That the n900 was not an Ubuntu-like machine was clear to me before I even got it.
 

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2010-09-02 , 16:50
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I think Android only adds to the competition in the smartphone industry - and that' s gotta be a good thing.

I bet all our good friends working on Meego and all the guys at Apple will be working hard to ensure their OS's offer something competitive and distinctive.

I still favour Maemo, but I keep on looking at other offerings. At least I know I made the right choice for my needs and interests.
 

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2010-09-02 , 17:00
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The amount of stuff you hear about Android is directly proportional to the size of the phone-geek within you So if you are bored, maybe its time to do some other stuff?

Android is becoming large simply because there is nothing else at the moment. But Windows and Symbian will strike back, and both OS'es have real advantages over this Linux/java hybrid in terms of efficiency. And there is Bada and soon to come Meego.

For some reason both Android and the iPhone reminds me of the moped of a long lost neighbor; lots and lots of noise, but totally out of proportion to the real benefits, or even to the popularity.

In the end, Samsung and Nokia will win this "race", and they will win it with Bada and Symbian.
 
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2010-09-02 , 17:02
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i would much rather hear about android then bitten fruit.
 
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2010-09-02 , 17:22
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the most annoying thing about Android is the update system , I mean yea i dont like iOS but since its only 1 phone its easy to keep up updates Android not so much there are 1.5 1.6 , 2.1 and 2.2 ... that's one of the reasons i wont buy Android oh and operators like to install bloatware on it too...I would love toI have pure vanilla system just to play with it...oh Nexus One
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2010-09-02 , 17:23
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.... But Windows and ... will strike back, and both OS'es have real advantages over ... in terms of efficiency.... .
Are you sure that you want to put efficiency and "Windows" in the same sentence?
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2010-09-02 , 17:33
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But Windows and Symbian will strike back, and both OS'es have real advantages over this Linux/java hybrid in terms of efficiency. And there is Bada and soon to come Meego.
Symbian's future rests heavily in the hands of Nokia, regardless of whom else uses it. Bada is Samsung-exclusive and is likely their replacement for Symbian on the low-end devices.

In the end, Samsung and Nokia will win this "race", and they will win it with Bada and Symbian.
Not in the high end, which is where all the attention is. I suspect that all the high end OSes will trickle down into lower end devices as hardware capabilities increase in all tiers.
 

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2010-09-02 , 18:12
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Symbian's future rests heavily in the hands of Nokia, regardless of whom else uses it. Bada is Samsung-exclusive and is likely their replacement for Symbian on the low-end devices.


Not in the high end, which is where all the attention is. I suspect that all the high end OSes will trickle down into lower end devices as hardware capabilities increase in all tiers.
I don't think there will be much difference. What is "high end" anyway. After Samsung and SE started selling "low-end" Android with essentially equal specs to that of "high-end" devices, the high end devices HAS to do more than Android. The Only Bada phone today is a high end phone, at least when looking at price.

The attention is on "high end" in the blogosphere only and not at all in proportion to the real world. It is like picking up a car magazine reading about all the million dollar super-sportcars and believing you can use that to relate to what kind of cars manufacturers should produce to make money. Ferrari and Porsche are nice cars, but it is only Mazda with their MX-5 that makes money on sport cars. The real money is in family cars.
 

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2010-09-02 , 18:16
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im a massive fan of nokia. i know they have the attention span of a goldfish when it comes to updates fixes and alike. but they are a company. and a companys sole aim. is profit!. how much money do nokia make if you buy a second hand n900? zero!. thats right zero!. so put yourself in there shoes. they wont you to buy the most current model. thus a mobile phone these days has a 1yr shelf life tops! its all about the community. nokia's community is by far the best out there! in every way. maemo and symbian. i mean my n900 absolutly rules period. but imagine the n900 minus all the repositorys. all you have is ovi! nuffsaid and since some super clever chaps have ported droid to a nokia device. and anyone who chooses to use it. me being one. am now part of the android community aswell. and thats what its about bringing people together. peoples opinions differ and thats where the magic lies. there are things that android has to offer that maemo only dreams about at night.market store vs application manager! but other than that its well.......basic really. ive gone off the point havent i. no im not sick of hearing about android!. iphone YES. but droid never!!!!!
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2010-09-02 , 18:25
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Originally Posted by mr_xzibit View Post
im a massive fan of nokia. i know they have the attention span of a goldfish when it comes to updates fixes and alike. but they are a company. and a companys sole aim. is profit!. how much money do nokia make if you buy a second hand n900? zero!. thats right zero!. so put yourself in there shoes. they wont you to buy the most current model. thus a mobile phone these days has a 1yr shelf life tops! its all about the community. nokia's community is by far the best out there! in every way. maemo and symbian. i mean my n900 absolutly rules period. but imagine the n900 minus all the repositorys. all you have is ovi! nuffsaid and since some super clever chaps have ported droid to a nokia device. and anyone who chooses to use it. me being one. am now part of the android community aswell. and thats what its about bringing people together. peoples opinions differ and thats where the magic lies. there are things that android has to offer that maemo only dreams about at night.market store vs application manager! but other than that its well.......basic really. ive gone off the point havent i. no im not sick of hearing about android!. iphone YES. but droid never!!!!!
A company that has lost massive market value and some reputation as well. A company that had the bullseye in its sites and the means to shoot the target but did not pull the trigger or even aim in the correct direction for a long time. So yes the bottom line is the bottom line we get that, but you have to do things to make your customers loyal and happy to keep leadership positions. By that logic, they should scrap Meego 6 months after its release and try to get everyone to switch to a new os...
 

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