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#31
Originally Posted by rs-px View Post
I really can't decide which to buy. I'm getting this primarily to browse the web, read ebooks, listen to Internet radio, and possibly watch movies. I might get a Bluetooth keyboard for a little note-making when out and about too.
I don't believe the iPod touch has bluetooth, so you won't be able to attach a bluetooth keyboard to it. If it did, I might consider the cute little device. But alas, you need an iPhone to get bluetooth.

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#32
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
There was more context was my implication, and you did touch on part of it. The most important, as I keep preaching, is L-i-n-u-x.

And you may not want to hack the iPhone or iPod touch, but my comment was in response to those who do.
I know, but Linux devices and in fact any device that needs to be hacked to get the best out of it (and this includes the current NITs) are not mass market. They're niche, and appeal to only a tiny minority which is why I always discuss the iPhone/Touch in terms of the "general" public who just want a device that works and works well.

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Originally Posted by cvmiller View Post
I don't believe the iPod touch has bluetooth, so you won't be able to attach a bluetooth keyboard to it. If it did, I might consider the cute little device. But alas, you need an iPhone to get bluetooth.

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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
I know, but Linux devices and in fact any device that needs to be hacked to get the best out of it (and this includes the current NITs) are not mass market. They're niche, and appeal to only a tiny minority which is why I always discuss the iPhone/Touch in terms of the "general" public who just want a device that works and works well.

We are the minority - long live the minority!!
Again, Mil: a status quo does not need to persist forever. Yes, the N800 has begun as a niche product.

But so did the PC. The CEO at IBM prior to its launch saw a market for a few, he said.

Good thing not everyone accepts a limited status quo.

Patience.
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#35
Originally Posted by DingerX View Post
Skype uses the internal mic only (not the supplied headset), so if you put the headset on, and drop the computer in the pocket, your correspondents will be annoyed. .
Not true.
Plug in a 4 conductor jack (like the supplied headset with mic), and the case mounted internal mic will be disconnected (along with the device's speakers.)

This makes sense.
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Now if you plug in a 3 conductor jack (stereo headphones only), then the internal mic continues to function.
This is actually the method I prefer as I want to carry a pair of decent earbuds for music etc., but I can still make my international Skype calls without having to also pack a headset.
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I am talking about the supplied 4 connector headset. It works with the SIP client, but skype somehow gets the internal mic. I would have thought it was a hardware switch, but evidently not. End result? I'm using the SIP client more and Skype less.
 
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Strange.
I just tested it with Skype and got the expected results of post #37.
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How could it be dependent upon which VoIP program is used?
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Skype uses the headset mike when I do it. I walk around talking to my wife with it on my hip, and she's never complained about the sound.
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#39
Originally Posted by DingerX View Post
Yeah, FBReader is nice; but I deal with reams of PDFs.

But right now, there is only one Portable Document Format, and if your deivce cannot render it, you're out of luck. So how about it? Allow evince to rotate 90 degrees? And let me flip pages without leaving full-screen mode (now someone will no doubt post and explain you can already do that.)
Perhaps worth mentioning is the fact that OS X, used in the touch, uses PDF as its rendering format. In other words, everything you see on-screen started out as PDF markup. So you'd think Safari handled PDFs better, right?

My 1.84GHz MacBook struggles with some PDFs in both Preview and Acrobat Reader. Remember that the clock speed is pushing 4GHz in total, and the computer also has 2GB of RAM!

I have a few government-created cycle maps and they take maybe 5 seconds to render when I open them, or click-and-grab to scroll. I very, very rarely have smooth scrolling in any PDF document, no matter how simple (even just text). I noticed that even huge JPEGs scroll faster. I think this points to a limitation with the PDF format. We all hate the idea of Microsoft muscling in on the turf with their own PDF format but, who knows, maybe they'll do a better job.

The other thing worth mentioning about cost is that, pretty soon, there are going to be a LOT of refurbished touches available via Apple's refurb store, because of the "negative black" screen issues. These will be around 25% cheaper than brand new models, although they may have cosmetic problems like scratches. But they will have been checked over by one of Apple's engineers, making them possibly a better bet than a brand new one!
 
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Originally Posted by rs-px View Post
Perhaps worth mentioning is the fact that OS X, used in the touch, uses PDF as its rendering format. In other words, everything you see on-screen started out as PDF markup. So you'd think Safari handled PDFs better, right?
There is a difference between DisplayPostScript and PDF, you know...
 
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