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allnameswereout | # 51 | 2010-09-19, 05:48 | Report

Originally Posted by HellFlyer View Post

Dont know about you guys but Nokia's new executive team looks promising. They might actually provide N900 with more updates in the future

Sure but, after two times, I'll sit the next one out, if you don't mind. After all, only a donkey makes the same mistake twice.

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yeah glass is always half full for me

drink more, you're most likely dehydrated.

slobodsky | # 52 | 2010-09-19, 05:55 | Report

I'm afraid that MeeGo UX will be too multitouch-oriented to be useful with resistive screen of N900. That's why we will not get the full official MeeGo for it. Other hardware is not a big problem, because Nokia usually releases a line of devices, so the new OS must be scalable enough to take the place of Symbian.

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Stskeeps | # 53 | 2010-09-19, 05:58 | Report

Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post

Eh? Bollocks. With oBS this isn't an issue.

What are you smoking? Just because there's OBS it doesn't mean packaging is there, nor that the base system isn't based on dpkg - check out maemo.gitorious.org.

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Stskeeps | # 54 | 2010-09-19, 05:59 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

I do stand corrected. However not having those aforesaid applications on the ARM reference device is still rather lacking thought and/or logic.

If it's the reference, then the apps should also be there.

Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.

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allnameswereout | # 55 | 2010-09-19, 06:10 | Report

Originally Posted by Stskeeps View Post

What are you smoking? Just because there's OBS it doesn't mean packaging is there, nor that the base system isn't based on dpkg - check out maemo.gitorious.org.

You don't have to smoke anything to get to the level I'm at. It simply means that you can use the same build system to make one x86-32 RPM port for netbooks, and an ARM deb port for smartphone. Isn't magic...

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Harmattan, originally slated to become Maemo 6, is now considered to be a MeeGo instance (though not a MeeGo product), and Nokia is giving up the Maemo branding for Harmattan and beyond (Maemo 5, aka Fremantle, and previous versions will still be referred to as Maemo).

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gerbick | # 56 | 2010-09-19, 06:11 | Report

Originally Posted by Stskeeps View Post

Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.

The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.

With that said, I know that the Meego.com images will never have commercial applications. I was around during all of the Hacker Editions. No Flash, no... nothing. And they totally sucked.

And people are actually happy with nothing? I repeat; utter ******** and I'm not sold. You people may wander about with your justifications like it's the good thing that will happen, but each and every Hacker Edition, failed attempt to get the next iteration of the OS - which, this time there's no damn excuse because it's the so-called ARM reference device - and yet... not a damn thing has changed from before. A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?

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Stskeeps | # 57 | 2010-09-19, 06:15 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.

Agreed, they should have named it something ele.

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And people are actually happy with nothing? I repeat; utter ******** and I'm not sold. You people may wander about with your justifications like it's the good thing that will happen, but each and every Hacker Edition, failed attempt to get the next iteration of the OS - which, this time there's no damn excuse because it's the so-called ARM reference device - and yet... not a damn thing has changed from before. A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?

I don't disagree with your stance, but before we can put any kind of differentiation on top, we need a working platform. This is where I'm working.

This applies for any kind of MeeGo.com-based products. When Nokia has a MeeGo.com-based product, you can talk to them about dumping in differentiation.

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Stskeeps | # 58 | 2010-09-19, 06:16 | Report

Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post

You don't have to smoke anything to get to the level I'm at. It simply means that you can use the same build system to make one x86-32 RPM port for netbooks, and an ARM deb port for smartphone. Isn't magic...

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Sure, but as I was saying, dual packaging for these does not exist, to my knowledge.

And don't get me started on the 'instance' stuff..

attila77 | # 59 | 2010-09-19, 07:29 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.
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A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?

I fully agree that a better (more clearly ?) specified upgrade path would have benefited everyone. As for silly naming, I have blogged about that time and again, and I sadly don't see that one resolved any time soon (on the contrary, see qgil's insistance that MeeGo-Harmattan is just provisional naming). But even if we look beyond (provisionally named) MeeGo-Harmattan, one of the biggest confusors is leveraging MeeGo as a brand when in fact, that's just the basis of the end product being offered to users. It feels a bit like Ubuntu users being confused by new official Debian releases (make no mistake, Debian may be barebones in certain aspects, but it's no hobbyist OS - at least, though, Ubuntu and Debian are named differently).

singhgurbir35 | # 60 | 2010-09-19, 08:56 | Report

all the applications n games will remain same or there will be sme new games ...................any idea